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Posted: 21:48 - 06 Aug 2019 Post subject: Rear Wheel damaged thread. *resolved* |
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Hey fellas,
Fazer failed its mot on the rear brake fluctuation. Assumed warped disc (could feel it in the pedal) went to replace and found this (after have to drill out 2 of the bolts)
https://puu.sh/E239P.jpg
The other half of that bolt was not in there, so someone had reused a snapped bolt and I could see marks all over it where someone had tried and failed to remove it.
After cleaning all the threads and going to put the new disc on I noticed this
https://puu.sh/E239N.jpg
The one where the snapped allen came out of is cross threaded... Im assuming this is cause of the brake fluctuation (?)
What are my options for repairing this? Tap and recut the thread, helicoil? grind/file the bolt shoulder so it clamps down flush? New rim?
Cheers. ____________________ Previous : 09 Vanvan 125| 02' Sv650s || Current: 1999 Xj600n | 1992 DR650 RSE | 2005 Fazer 1000
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 22:10 - 06 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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I'd try a helicoil in the knowledge that if it doesn't work well, you can get a used wheel for around £100.
it would be great to get that wheel in a lathe to check the shoulders are level and square too. Or at least put a dial guage onto it after fitting the helicoil and disc. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 11:05 - 07 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Fit all the other bolts correctly, glue the half bolt on to the disk so it looks like you have them all present and correct, mark it with tipex.
don't do that.. |
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Posted: 11:31 - 07 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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That was my main concern with a helicoil though, would that be considered a safe repair? I would assume it would be strong enough for the forces it would have to deal with but wanted to make sure.
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My understanding is that helicoil will be stronger than the original thread in alloy, as overall it has more material to 'pull' on..
Pete will know for sure. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 21:58 - 07 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Not easy to pull a thread round like that on a rear disc. I reckon that someone in the past has ridden off with a disc lock fitted and bent the disc along with the bolt, stretching the hole sideways.
I'd run a tap down it first with a guide to keep it straight. If that didn't work then probably a 2D helicoil. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Cheers for the help fellas
2x Helicoils later and shes back up and running. Turns out someone previously tried to drill out the bolts, drilled offcenter and left some of the old bolt in there. That was the cause of the bolt going in at a angle.
£60 for the repair and made a very useful contact.
https://puu.sh/E2Jjf.jpg ____________________ Previous : 09 Vanvan 125| 02' Sv650s || Current: 1999 Xj600n | 1992 DR650 RSE | 2005 Fazer 1000 |
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I would've sold you a complete wheel for a tenner less than that ____________________ DRZ400-SM
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Posted: 14:15 - 08 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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two holes knackered then?
I have a GPZ900 wheel with immovable disc bolts like those. Even withstands air impact gun. It was only for going on ebay after I robbed the new 16" tyre of it for my FZ, so I abandoned it..
Are these bolts going on 'dry' and then corrode or are they loctited? ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Ahh yeah 1000's probably fetch a bit more ____________________ DRZ400-SM
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 260 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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