Suzuki GS500 Oil Filter nut spinning

dan.porter15 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 23 Jun 2015 Karma :

Hi all,

Just attempted to remove my oil filter and one of the nuts is just spinning: https://imgur.com/a/DDuBPSG

I'm assuming the nut is stuck to the bolt. I've tried to wedge a screwdriver under it and using a socket to get it off with no luck, also tried getting some pliers on it and twisting/pulling.

Done a bit of googling and seems to be a common problem with these bikes, but other posts seem to have got the nut off which I'm not having much luck with.

Any ideas?

Riejufixing · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jun 2018 Karma :

Can you get a nut splitter on it (or even the jaws of a bolt cropper)? If not, is it possible to support the nut on one side (with e.g. a hammer head) while you drive a (sharp) cold chisel into it from the other? You split the thing "across", by the way, from one side to the other.

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dan.porter15 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 23 Jun 2015 Karma :

Thanks for your response, I managed to get it off by wedging a screwdriver under the oil filter cover, and slowly bringing the nut out with a socket.

My issue now is the thread has been completely chewed off, I'm struggling to get the stud out: https://imgur.com/a/kYOv4ZI

Attempted to stick two nuts on and lock them together to bring it out, but as you can see from the photos there's not a lot of thread for the nuts to grab. Mole grips and pliers don't seem to work either, and I'm at a bit of a loss again.

I don't own a dremel or anything like that to try get it off that way, and my nearest shop which would sell one (halfords, which is a bus journey away Rolling Eyes

) is shut now.

Any clever methods of getting these things off that doesn't involve power tools? Very Happy

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Riejufixing · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jun 2018 Karma :

Have you got heat (e.g. a gas torch), and some small stillsons, or a Footprint pipe wrench? If so, heat up the stud and surrounding area, and wind it out.

If you have a welder, weld a nut on, and go on that.

Perhaps someone nearby has such things, if you don't?

dan.porter15 · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 23 Jun 2015 Karma :

Didn't have a torch so used a BBQ lighter Razz

but seemed to do the trick!

Here's an after image of the stud... it's pretty bad

https://imgur.com/a/ppcrlDx

Thanks!
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BusterGonads · Trackday Trickster Joined: 18 May 2018 Karma :

I can 'feel' your relief as that stud started to come out.

I expect most of us have been there and felt the sickening grief as that sort of problem unfolded and then - sometimes - the uplift of relief as the solution unfolded.

I keep looking at the corroded, horrible threads sticking out of the exhaust nut on the exhaust port of my beater CG125 and wondering how it will be next time I need to take that exhaust off. The bike isn't worth anything much, and it is one of three, so I won't be bikeless if things go wrong, but I think I know it is going to be a bastard when I want it out. I'm thinking I should get some penetrating oil on it now, and when it is out, I might renew the stud and in future make sure I have graphite on those threads. Graphite is one of the few lubricants that will stand that kind of heat and still work as intended when the time comes to remove the nut or the stud. Come to think of it, I think last time I had it off, it was teh stud that came out, and I don't like that either because the aluminium will wear out and lead to a world of misery.

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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Couple of other alternatives for exhaust studs. One is to use a LONG nut that covers all the thread. Honda used to do this a lot in the 90's and it worked well. They had special extra-long chromed steel flange nuts just for the job.

Another is to use a brass nut that will a) Not corrode much anyway and b) Strip out well before the steel threads on the stud get damaged.
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BusterGonads · Trackday Trickster Joined: 18 May 2018 Karma :

A few years back, I bought a little bottle of graphite powder for lubing locks. It is a very very fine powder - dust really. I'm thinking of mixing some with a bit of grease for threads like exhaust studs. Graphite is an excellent high temperature lubricant. The grease would evaporate and burn away, but the graphite wouldn't and it is very slippery stuff.
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