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Posted: 13:14 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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King29 wrote: | To be fair the initial water problem was my fault. I filled the boiler manually with the 2 taps as it was on lower green, I never shut them off correctly and it trickle filled the boiler in the red. The noise I heard was the boiler spewing the water out.
All good now.
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Considering the cheapest Biasi boiler new from Screwfix is £580, I'm surprised Mr Singh only wanted to make £20 for over a day's work to supply and fit. Even if he was VAT registered and tried to claim the VAT back, it would be difficult to do when he didn't issue a VAT receipt.
I wonder if it wasn't new? Mind you, when Mr Singh does provide the Gas Safe certificate, all will be well. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 15:36 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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mpd72 wrote: | King29 wrote: | To be fair the initial water problem was my fault. I filled the boiler manually with the 2 taps as it was on lower green, I never shut them off correctly and it trickle filled the boiler in the red. The noise I heard was the boiler spewing the water out.
All good now.
https://i.imgur.com/SfgRr5K.jpg |
Considering the cheapest Biasi boiler new from Screwfix is £580, I'm surprised Mr Singh only wanted to make £20 for over a day's work to supply and fit. Even if he was VAT registered and tried to claim the VAT back, it would be difficult to do when he didn't issue a VAT receipt.
I wonder if it wasn't new? Mind you, when Mr Singh does provide the Gas Safe certificate, all will be well. |
I would be very concerned that Mr Singh didn't charge and test the boiler before leaving the house. Nothing about this stacks up, so I suspect a tall story... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 18:29 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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King29 wrote: | Diggs wrote: |
I would be very concerned that Mr Singh didn't charge and test the boiler before leaving the house. Nothing about this stacks up, so I suspect a tall story... |
Diggs, what does not check out. Stop looking for holes when there are none. Yes he charged the boiler. He fired it up. The water pressure was low. I filled it up, never turned the taps all the way off, boiler filled up. FFS. |
Then you miss the point of Dear Auntie BCF. It exists to sow seeds of doubt and to make people worry about otherwise innocuous domestic trivia... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 19:29 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Unsure what good that does; it should help with any guarantee, BUT in the T&Cs:
1. The boiler must have been installed and commissioned by a registered Gas Safe installer (it hasn't been) in
accordance with the guidelines in the installation and servicing booklet provided with the boiler (it hasn't been).
By the way, the website wants the "Gas Safe" number of the installer.
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Posted: 19:38 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Could you live with the death of your family.
That is all you have to ask when it comes down to it.
If no, get cert and gas safe number, if he fails to provide report to police.
If yes, you are scum.
2 solid options there, pick wisely. |
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Ste Not Work Safe
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Posted: 19:53 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Riejufixing wrote: |
Unsure what good that doe |
Trying to register it would result in them telling King29 if SinghPal does deals on stuff that fell off the back of a lorry.
Anyone can register the warranty though.
Like you say, the T&C's say it has to be fitted by a gas safe person so it wouldn't be of any use, I was only suggesting it as a way of finding out if it's off the back of a lorry.
Very few boxes on the form are marked with an asterisk and I'm guessing that the form only requires the fields marked with an asterisk to be filled in. |
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Posted: 20:03 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Paddy. wrote: | If no, get cert and gas safe number, if he fails to provide report to police. |
https://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/help-and-advice/complaints-report-an-illegal/
Other than the risk of death and home insurance problems, no one will be willing to work with the SinghPal boiler so removing it and starting again is about the only way a proper Gas Safe plumber can know that everything is done correctly.
It is going to end up being replaced.
https://nationaltradesmen.co.uk/2019/06/10/plumber-jailed-for-removing-boiler-and-replacing/
"A Staffordshire plumber has been jailed after gas work he performed at a domestic premise was left in a dangerous condition.
Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court heard how, in September 2016, Colin Christopher Batchelor carried out gas work that included removing an old boiler, installing a new boiler, reinstalling a gas meter and connecting pipework whilst unregistered.
An investigation by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) found that Colin Christopher Batchelor had performed gas work whilst falsely claiming to be a member of Gas Safe. He was not competent to carry out work in relation to gas fittings, he did not have any relevant qualifications and he failed to carry out any test or examination to verify that the installation was gas tight following his work. This resulted in the work not being performed in a manner which would prevent danger to people.
Colin Christopher Batchelor of Tean, Stoke-on-Trent pleaded guilty to five breaches of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998. He was sentenced to eight months immediate imprisonment for each offence, to be served concurrently." |
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Posted: 20:13 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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Posted: 20:18 - 19 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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"The responsible person for any premises shall not use a gas appliance or permit a gas appliance to be used if at any time he knows or has reason to suspect that it cannot be used without constituting a danger to any person."
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/2451/made
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Posted: 08:30 - 20 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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In the spirit of helpfulness, you should also go onto your Local Authority website and enter your address into the Building Control search function to see if the works are revealed. If they are not you have to ask your plumber why. If he won't or cannot ensure that this happens, you have been ripped of.
If he can't and you continue to use the boiler, at best you invalidate your home insurance and will struggle to sell your house. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 09:02 - 20 Aug 2019 Post subject: |
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duhawkz wrote: | The stuggling to sell your house bit, is not exactly true.
What will happen is that, when you fill out all the forms for the solicitors they will ask you whether you've had any notifable works done, whether you had the correct permitts etc.
They will ask whether you've had a new boilder fitted. When and if there is any warranty on it and when it was last serviced. They will also require the gas safe certificate or building control inspection certificate.
If you can't provide those then obviously you stand to loose your buyer which might cost you some money depending on how far along in the process, however what is more likely is that you will be made to purchase an indemnity policy to cover the issue.
I know because the plumber forgot to register the new boiler at the last house. And the solicitors where tooing and frowing about it. Fortunately for me my plumber was a gas safe registered engineer who genuinely forgot because he was so busy. So once he registered it I was able to get a certificate emailed over and all was right with the world.
Btw the certificate comes from gas safe not from singhpal. |
It certainly won't make it easier... Question 1.1L on a Local Authority search relates to this very matter. If a buyer is paying cash and forgoes a search then the issue may not come up, but this happens in relatively few cases nowadays. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 250 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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