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For a good few months now I've been making huge piles of shavings and sawdust in my first attempt at building a guitar.
The guitar in question is a LP type, single cut, mahogany body and neck with a flamed maple cap.
This is not a kit, I've, literally carved and shaped this from chunks of wood.
As it stands, the body and neck are complete, the frets have been levelled and crowned not had the final polish yet though, the maple top and headstock veneer have been stained.
AFAIC, I've completed all the difficult bits, the next step will be to glue the neck to the body, the neck fits nicely in the pocket and the neck lines up with the centre line of the body.
I haven't decided on what the final finish will be, although I'm currently leaning towards an acrylic clear coat, I may changed my mind and go for an oil finish.
Once the necks in place and the finish has been applied I'll have to fit all the hardware and wire it up.
Anyway here's some pictures:-
https://i.imgur.com/GCTesQF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2sz9vSc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HslDsmX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8phkQI9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kkzu9ht.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YyUGhRx.jpg
As I said I've never built a guitar before, so everyday's been a school day.
The most difficult part is the level of accuracy you need to achieve.
What tools have I used, well if you don't have a band saw you'e going to spend an awful lot of time with a saw in your hand. My router has come in for a lot of use as has my pillar drill. I've used planes of all sizes right down to a tiny thumb plane and plenty of wood chisels, all the planes, apart from the thumb plane, and all of the chisels are charity shop buys.
The only specialist tools I've bought new are a razor saw, 0.3mm kerf, for the fret slots and a traditional fret crowning file.
I carved the whole of the neck with a 1/2" wood chisel, which didn't take long at all, for the arch top I used various wood gouges and the thumb plane.
What takes the most time is building all the jigs and templates etc. that are needed. I built a router sled rig which has come in very handy especially for getting the correct angle on both the body and in the neck pocket.
The least enjoyable parts of the process are waiting for glue to dry and waiting around to make sure the wood doesn't "move" once you've rough cut it to shape. There's also the constant worry of the cost of the wood that a few misplaced gouges or dings could render the whole thing into very expensive firewood.
If you want to have a go at doing something similar bear in mind for the money you will spend on materials and hardware you could probably buy a really good second hand guitar, but where's the fun in that?
HT, I've designated you as test pilot, when it's finished, if you fancy it! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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Very cool! I wish I was good at something like that...anything really
If you make a Strat, dibs on being test pilot for that
I don't know, but I think I might have been tempted to scallop the rear a bit. A mahogany Les Paul sounds very heavy! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Very cool! I wish I was good at something like that...anything really
If you make a Strat, dibs on being test pilot for that
I don't know, but I think I might have been tempted to scallop the rear a bit. A mahogany Les Paul sounds very heavy! |
Not really a Strat fan, but I might try a flat body type thing next.
I wouldn't hold your breath though, it's taken me months to get this far, but you're welcome if you fancy a trip down to Wales.
AFAIK, early LP's were mahogany and notoriously heavy, I believe a lot of the more modern ones are weight relieved, ie if you removed the maple cap it looks like Swiss cheese!
It doesn't feel particularly heavy to me.
Riejufixing wrote: | What on earth's a "razor saw"? Is that the same as a gent's saw? What glue do you use for this application, I wonder. Pearl? Interested. |
I suppose a razor saw is just another name for a very thin gent saw, there is no offset on the teeth and 24 TPI and yes, it's very sharp.
Wood glue = Titebond. Seems to be what everyone in internet land uses. ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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Nice! What are you doing for the electrics? Dual humbuckers?
Personally I recommend Irongear Pickups: keep your money in the UK
For a bit of fun fit a 5 way selector: bridge, neck, bridge + neck plus two spare spots for your fav serial/parallel combos. Double-duty the volume/tone knobs with push-pull switches and you can think about multi-tap pickups ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Easy-X wrote: | Nice! What are you doing for the electrics? Dual humbuckers?
Personally I recommend Irongear Pickups: keep your money in the UK
For a bit of fun fit a 5 way selector: bridge, neck, bridge + neck plus two spare spots for your fav serial/parallel combos. Double-duty the volume/tone knobs with push-pull switches and you can think about multi-tap pickups |
I have the Irongear dirty torque + blues engine combo waiting to go in.
I'll be sticking with the standard selector, tone, volume set up.
Although I can play and do a weekly gig, I ain't no Jimmy Paige!
Sister Sledge wrote: | Looks great, really does.
I'm no guitar person or musician either but do admire the thought and work that goes into making instruments.
Everyone should have a go at making things. It's surprising how therapeutic it can be. |
You're too kind!
As far as making things goes you're right, along the way as well as making all the templates I've had to make a couple of specialist tools, a 12" radius sanding beam for the fret board and an angled file block for the fret edges. When I do another It should be a lot quicker, with the stuff I've learned along the way. ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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Great work Sid. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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I've watched a few folk on youtube applying an acrylic clear coat over an oil finish but that's been on furniture.
The problem I have with spraying anything is I have nowhere warm enough to do it, so I'll probably end up oiling it.
Arghh, I can't make my mind up! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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Impressed by peeps wood working skills and knowledge
I'm probably what they call a wood butcher.
As for instruments, a tea chest and broom handle bass
would be more my level
Here's a pic of one
if you can tear yer eyes off the ladies underwear
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It looks great. I'm not a woodworking person but I love looking at well crafted pieces and furniture. That is lovely.
The wood on the front of the guitar, is that actually purple or just the light? ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Very nice, Sid.
Can I recommend:
https://crimsonguitars.com/store/high-build-guitar-finishing-oil/
Have a look at their water based stains too - they have a Youtube video channel with demo vids showing how to get the best out of the finishes.
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Ha ha, I used the Crimson "Stain Shots" for the colour and they are really very good. The dyes come with separate droppers for each colour, which is good, my only, very slight, niggle is they didn't come with any indication of proportions to mix, just adds to the fun I guess.
I also bought my fret crowning file from them, which is also a very nice piece of kit.
And yes, the crimson Oil finish is definitely an option I've considered.
I'm subscribed to the Crimson Youtube channel
Polarbear wrote: | It looks great. I'm not a woodworking person but I love looking at well crafted pieces and furniture. That is lovely.
The wood on the front of the guitar, is that actually purple or just the light? |
The wood on the top of the body is a book matched piece of flamed maple, I have dyed it purple.
To get the maximum effect you dye the whole thing black, you then knock this back with some 400 grit sand paper, the striped effect you see on the wood is alternate stripes of end grain, sanding it back will leave some black dye in the end grain stripes.
I then dyed the whole top with royal blue, came back with some more black around the edge, then applied the purple. It's, slightly more involved than that and it doesn't show too well on the photo, but you need to blend the colours into each other to get a burst effect, ie going from nearly black at the edge to purple in the middle, this should show up more when oil/lacquer is applied. ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!" |
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