reusable oil filters.

[Sister Sledge]

Scratching around the internet and came across these - stainless steel oil filters.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OUTLAW-RACING-SUZUKI-DR-Z400-DRZ400-STAINLESS-STEEL-RE-USEABLE-OIL-FILTER/110899903610?epid=8004464987&hash=item19d2263c7a:g:2oAAAOxyY9VRIhWU

Does anyone use them? Any advice on them?? Useless???

Just a consideration because I change oil and filters often and it will pay for itself.
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[A100man]

Interesting, but my guess would be a PITA to get fully clean each time. Greta will love you (hate you less) though.
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[Easy-X]

Not sure about these. K&N filter style and foam can hold some oil to help clean out dust from the air. I wouldn't think steel holds onto oil as well. Cleaning would just be the same as K&N I guess.

I did see a YouTube vid of a guy lobbing various cr*p at a motocross foam filter. The conclusion was that oiled / not oiled a filter would stop everything but ultra fine dust (think salt flats.) Take from that what you will.
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[BTTD]

I've seen something similar advertised for Harleys, but they were made in USA, cnc machined ,laser cut, etc etc with prices to match. They look much nicer and shinier than the standard filters and are apparently far superior. There were some quite technical reviews where they really went into assessing the flow rate and filtration. Some faired better than others, some only performed about the same as a standard filter, and there is the question of whether better than spec flow rate really matters, and whether improved filtration was of any benefit in an air cooled 'basic' engine. Cleaning them was also messy and time consuming.
The faffing about cleaning it is what puts me off.

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[BTTD]

EDIT: wot e said. ^

[The Shaggy D.A.]

Given that some small bikes have a mesh rather than a replaceable filter (my CB250RS had one), the thought doesn't fill me with dread if you were to change the oil every couple of thousand miles.

I'm interested to find what the largest capacity bike that has just a mesh screen as standard is, now
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[WD Forte]

I applaud the concept, how many oil filters go to landfill?
but agree about getting them 'fully clean' every time.
The cleaning could be a messy chore but I'm now thinking
of a liquid and mechanical rinsing method rather than white sprit and old underpants

dishwasher? would er indoors go mental?
Ultrasonics? and cycle a few? ie one in use, one or two being cleaned

As to efficiency, not sure
I dont think we really know how efficient the ones
we're using now are and hope the name on the box is to be trusted.
they dont stop the oil turning black do they?
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[Riejufixing]

[MCN]

The important quality is what a filter holds back from the Oil flow. The micron size. And what the filter media is made from or what treatments have been added to improve functions.

https://www.lube4life.com/oilfilters.htm

Smaller engines are not stressed as much as bigger machine so expected wear is less. Regular services mean any evil will be found before major damage has been done. And repair may be relatively less costly.
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[MCN]

And washing an engine filter out would require a lot of resources. Paraffin/petrol and much phapherisma.
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[RhynoCZ]

[RhynoCZ]

[RhynoCZ]

[Easy-X]

I would have thought the whole point is to keep all the shite in one place so you can dump it easily and safely not wash it out into the environment to kill asthmatic kittens!
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[Fizzer Thou]

I use reuseable oil filters on the KTM and the XR-SM.They are easy to clean and the flow rate is as good if not better than a standard Honda or KTM paper filters.I measured this by pouring a certain amount of oil into each filter over a time.There was no restriction on flow rate when the oil was at ambient temperature so I would expect the flow rate to be even less restrictive when the oil is at operating temperature.
To clean I soak them in hot water with washing up liquid.Nothing fancy or corrosive and not damaging to the environment as far as I am concerned.

Definitely worth the investment,especially after a few oil changes.The KTM only holds about one litre of fully synthetic so it gets changed more often than that in the XR-SM.I then clean the filter/filters at every oil change,which is ideal for keeping an eye on what,if anything,is being caught by the filters.On a paper filter,a sharp piece of metal is more likely to tear its way through,whereas the stainless steel mesh catches debris.

On the Honda there are two other oil filters,both of the metal mesh type.On the KTM,there are four filters,two of which are plastic mesh type.
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[Sister Sledge]

Lots of interesting considerations and that last answer is great - cleaning it was potentially a nightmare. I'd visioned paraffin in an ultrasonic bath! I never thought about soapy water lol.

With oil changes I don't even let the bike get to 1k miles before doing them. Although it holds more than the KTM (mine holds 1.9 litres absolute max after an engine rebuild say) it still doesn't hold a lot. I don't hold back when riding either which means oil is worked hard.
My main concern was actual filtration. Must say I'm very tempted with the idea.

Oh - it does have a normal steel mesh screen. It bolts into the bottom of the frame oil tank (dry sump and separate). I never see things in that filter but saying that, the mesh size is quite large.
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[MCN]

[WD Forte]

If you had some parafin/white spirit in an old ice cream tub in a corner for instance
you could rinse the SS filter in that and at the next change the crap would mostly be settled on the bottom and stay there as long as you didnt agitate it too much.
stinkshun rebelyun dude!
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[stinkwheel]

Fixing a non-problem really.

Where it gets really interesting is with re-usable oil... Mate of mine is using royal purple race oil in his endurance racer. You drain it at the end of a race, put it through a paper coffee filter then put it back in for the next race.
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