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Posted: 21:43 - 14 Oct 2019 Post subject: Longevity and waterproof expectations of jackets. |
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Weise fabric jacket as described at:
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/224249
"The Weise Nevada ST is yet another addition to the Weise stable combining both great value and unassuming functionality. The jacket is ready for the weather with a waterproof, windproof and breathable drop lining complemented by a removable thermal quilted lining. Fully armoured, the Nevada ST has adjustments at the waist, sleeves and collar for comfort and fit."
10 months old, lightly used. Would you expect it to be leakproof, or to let in a lot of water at the shoulders and at other places in light rain on a 4-mile journey, which is what it does? |
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Back to the shop it goes. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | It's not me. The shop are making soothing noises[1], which is nice. A replacement "similar" might be a good thing, it would cut their loss and hopefully result in something that is reasonably waterproof.
So a "floating" liner is easier to damage? I wouldn't expect so much symetrical leakage. Manufacturing issue?
Re longevity. I wonder whether removing the "warm liner" is liable to cause issue (again, not sure that's applicable to this one).
It's just nice to discuss what's expected and how long things should last. I am not sure that expense is a good indicator of ongoing waterproofness, bearing in mind that cheap plastic "outdoor" stuff is waterproof.
1) "I can confirm that a Weise jacket has 2 years of warranty so we can accept this back as a warranty claim" |
I'd agree about the symmetry of the leakage; likely to be untaped seams. But if the liner gets damaged, it's likely to be where it can get abraded easily, elbows and shoulders tend to get hit by the hand as you put your arms through the sleeves as they're the corners inside the sleeves. Watches, rings, nails (nail extensions? won't judge . . .) etc. could all easily tear a fragile waterproof lining. Laminated waterproof materials are less likely to snag and probably will have a fabric drop liner instead which it doesn't matter (and probably not even noticeable) if it gets snagged. In the case of this jacket, the warm liner probably would protect the waterproof liner, but if it's badly designed in the first place, e.g. non-taped seams, it'll always leak.
All but the very cheapest waterproof fabrics tend to be reasonably waterproof; the two factors that can (not always) change with price are design (better designs will be more waterproof due to seam waterproofness, abrasion resistance, cuff design, stormflaps over the zips etc.) and breathability. The latter shouldn't be underestimated either; a bin-bag is fantastically waterproof and if you wore one and taped up the sleeves/neck with gaffer tape pretty much nothing would get in . . . or out, so you'd be soaked with sweat in a very short time.
I've been battling with waterproofs for decades for my mountaineering kit, so I've come into motorcycle gear with a bit of knowledge which is handy. The conditions they endure are surprisingly similar; I frequently encounter wind-driven rain and snow with 50mph winds in the hills, which can get much stronger in some places where it gets funnelled through rocks etc., the difference is the priority with mountaineering kit is light weight and breathability, as opposed to abrasion resistance. ____________________ TG. |
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Kentol750 wrote: | We've all been lured into the 4 season jacket type thing. A good leather and some flexible oilskins are much better. Army waterproofs over a decent jacket worked 20 years ago on a fireblade, why not now?
Fuck trends and cool, if I have to wear gear 24/7 it needs to work 24/7. |
After trying some things out, I've just gotten waterproof overs which works better than any reasonably priced gear. My winter textile jacket leaks at the inner arms, £30 on ebay , but is torrential proof all over. My leather trousers only leaked at the knees because of the flexy thingy, and got me a wet bum too, but dried quick, so I got textiles to match the jacket, they are damp the next day, bum not as wet but still damp, not much better. I think if I'm not cold when the temps drop I'll sell my winter gear on and just keep leather. ____________________
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I rate Weise clothing.
I owned a Weise Dynastar II for about 5 years before it started to leak and I owned the equivalent previous model for a similar time before that.
Maybe they've gone downhill since then, but I wouldn't expect anything to leak after 10 months. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 194 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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