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Posted: 17:08 - 13 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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It's alive... ALIVE!!!
The sun came out for a bit so no time to waste Mixed up some 30:1 to err on the side of caution and hooked up a little test tank.
The carb pissed out fuel from the choke and float overflows... feck but it was probably just some shite in there - I didn't actually clean it out as a) the carb is the wrong one b) it looks pretty battered and c) I'm a lazy fuck - anyhoo it stopped pissing after a bit.
Tried kicking it over a few times. Nothing. Tried the choke. Nothing. Pulled the plug: lovely spark. Tried again. Nothing. Gave it a bit of throttle. Almost! And then it fired up
I had that silencer with the sheared bolts just cable tied to the frame. I wanted to just see if it was actually usable and I was quite surprised it sounded pretty good! Classic 2 smoke sound but not anywhere near as loud as I though it might be. So definitely worth repairing
A couple of amusing asides: I forgot to fit the ignition switch so I'm assuming the busted one has previously been jammed in the running position, handy!
And the kill switch doesn't work
You'd think a bike that hadn't been started in years would die instantly without some attention but nope! Thankfully I'd only fed a few thimbles worth of fuel to the carb so I just left it to run dry
Okay, so probably not really worth all that effort as it's all going to get stripped anyway but I thought it a useful exercise to have "this definitely runs... and runs pretty good!" in the back of your mind when at some point the pile of parts in front of you looks a little overwhelming. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 21:21 - 13 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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Well as I was successful in starting the engine I thought I'd treat myself by looking at some easy-peasy stuff
The engine scrape plate / protector / stone guard... whatever you want to call it looked like this:
https://i.imgur.com/4W4seUN.jpg?1
Quick buzz of the wire wheel to get rid of the loose stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/cMCC4E3.jpg?1
And then an nice coating of rust converter/protector:
https://i.imgur.com/ndqfVyG.jpg?1
Scratch the stupid comment on powder coating this. The whole point of a guard is to be a sacrificial device to protect the engine. Powder coating would be a waste - it's tough but not indestructible - so I'm just going to spray it with some stone chip underbody paint and repaint it as and when it needs it.
Looking at the seat...
Oh dear! The cover is obviously a write-off - no surprise there. I'm more worried about the state of the metal around the edges. Half the teeth that grip the cover either have or soon will disintegrate:
https://i.imgur.com/wVF9M6c.jpg?1
And the rest of the metal around the edge? Well I'm not sure it is metal any more:
https://i.imgur.com/LLLIDa4.jpg?1
Seat covers, no problem. Shaving foam to size, straightforward. That edge though
Comments welcome ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 17:59 - 14 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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In my experience the seat often rot badly under the foam where moisture has been held in contact with the base
You'll see how good/bad it is when you take to foam off.
Nil desperendum though old boy,
my seat was worse than yours when I repaired it
As for edges:
Go to your local upholstery shop and buy tacking strip
It's usually galvanised and dead cheap
Just be warned the spikes dont like to be worked much
so if you have keep repositioning the cover they may break off.
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Posted: 23:54 - 14 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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Just pull the seat material further towards the middle and secure it with pop rivets or self tappers. Or even a heavy duty staple gun might be man enough to pop through the steel, works on plastic ones. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 03:10 - 15 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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BCF... the gift that keeps on giving! You've cheered me up no end with your suggestions, chaps
I did click buy on one of those cheap Chinese generic seats... I would say I feel a little foolish for being so hasty but a) it was only £15 and b) there aren't as many good condition seat pans about - for reasonable money - as one would hope these days. It'll be an interesting side experiment to attempt adapting it anyway.
Anyhoo, we shall see what is left tomorrow if I have some time ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 09:46 - 15 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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Nothing to add, just commenting to watch the thread.
Looks like a cool project. ____________________ Life begins at the end of your comfort zone. |
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Oh dear, "you know nothing, John Snow!" colour me educated. I somehow pictured you moulding something out of the old seat pan itself ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Sister Sledge wrote: | And once you've done that, cut the wheels and axle from the bin. They make for great sack barrows. Apparently. |
Oh I think it was you that suggested JIS screwdrivers from Machine Mart. Got a set today and only just over £8
Big help:
https://i.imgur.com/YNdpKOE.jpg?1
Looks a bit sad now But yes, there were some mashed screws where someone in the past had used an "ordinary" screwdriver but the JIS ones did the job flawlessly
Still the wheels, engine and suspension to strip off but at least I can just grab a random bag or box and buff/repaint/replace at my leisure
The expansion chamber / down pipe was surprisingly easy to remove. "What is this? Screwdriver or spanner?" neither! Someone's already gone and put some hex-head bolts on and I didn't even need WD40. Nice!
The handlebar switches are... okay but they are pretty old and worn. I wonder what ppl's opinion is on these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-7-8-Handlebar-Left-Turn-Signal-Light-Hi-Lo-Beam-Switch-Control-Horn/183264469007
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Yamaha-PY-80-PW-80-Throttle-Housing-On-Off-Control-Kill-Switch/182888284133
Not exactly the original style but at least they're cast metal and not plastic. The piss-poor red paint can easily be remedied but the cost... feck! Here's a "proper" one:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-DT100-DT125-DT250-DT360-DT400-YZ80-RH-HANDLEBAR-SWITCH-CLUSTER/112930931464
And therein lies the central problem: what is acceptable when restoring a bike?
I would imagine replacing all the original bolts with stainless steel would draw no attention. Using hex-head bolts? Some tutting at least. An aftermarket silencer and switches vaguely in keeping with the original style? "Sorry, old chap, the Interweb-Blogosphere-Echo-Chamber has spoken: you're to be taken out and shot at dawn."
Now I'm considering a "Daymaker" headlamp to really throw the cat amongst the pigeons ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 16:41 - 20 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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I'd ask myself, what's it for?
If you want to go enter it in a show, well stay original.
If you want to ride it. Do what seems sensible, cost effective and functional.
I just painted my 350 bullet frame with grey skip paint (cold cure machine enamel). Sensible: tick. Cost effective: tick. Functional: Tick. In any way original? Nope. Will upset purists? Not as much as fitting metric fasteners and definately not as much as fitting japanese switchgear's going to.
They £80 ebay special shocks are going to cause apoplexy. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
I think most BCF'ers who've built a few a few bikes agree that getting stuff done to an Mot safe standard and keeping up the momentum of a project are the key things. Agonising, indecision and not making a few guesses along the way are the enemy of finishing projects. Making 10bad decisions that one day may cause an issue is called gaining experience and its far more valuable than a theoretical perfect incomplete bike. |
Yes, let's keep it real, thanx
My intentions are just to have "an experience." I'm not intending to go to shows with it. I'm sure I'll make a pilgrimage to Box Hill or the Ace Cafe - be rude not to - but other than finishing it and revving it in front of some climate change protesters I'm not quite sure what I'll do with it after that... have a go at green laning next year maybe. Worse ways to get some fresh air.
I'll continue with restoring to working order and sub in parts that at least take a nod to the style of the bike if not the exact era...
I think fitting a Daymaker headlamp is a step too far (plus I'd need to redo the electrics for 12V) but if I did happen to see a 6V bulb replacement that could handle AC then who's to know
Anyhoo, the wife's gone round to see her dad this evening. You're on your own, whatcha gonna do? Watch some vids and polish something So I've been following a guy doing a hard-tail conversion of a Royal Enfield Bullet while I take the Autosol to the chrome handlebars. Huh? What? You had a different mental image? Shame on you!
Found some wire wool with so many O's you'd swear it was cotton wool dyed grey and had at it:
https://i.imgur.com/WZ0mf7F.jpg?1
I really should have done a before photo but it's come up pretty well. Might have another go over them if I get bored but certainly good enough to avoid clicking buy on overpriced NOS.
If the chrome indicators are in the next bag I promise to do a before and after ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 01:11 - 21 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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Indicators came up nice, before:
https://i.imgur.com/OVbHyjE.jpg?1
After:
https://i.imgur.com/2U93xfy.jpg?1
Done all four tonight. I dunno what the two spare indicator assemblies were from - the mounts look like you'd put them somewhere around the forks rather than on the handlebars - but the lens are the same and I needed a donor for a cracked one plus a mashed rubber sealing ring.
Made a note of the bolt/nut/washer sizes while I was at it. The bolts especially have a tendency to disintegrate into rust as I found on the old scooter rebuild. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 19:09 - 21 Oct 2019 Post subject: |
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Well that's a bit disappointing.
This is BCF, when the photographer gets in a reflection
we like to see they're only wearing their filthy underpants and string vest
or a dressing gown falls open to reveal the horrors beneath.
Moar shame and embarassment needed
4/10 must try harder
summat like this
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 236 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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