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byke95
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: How important is 64 bit compared to 32? Reply with quote
Hi all,

I’m after some tech advice. Which is the better (general browsing, photo editing, no gaming) laptop?

1. Intel Core i5 (i5-5300U) 2.30 GHz processor, 8 GB memory, 256 GB ssd, 32-bit Windows 7 or

2 Intel Core i5 (i5-4310U) 2.00 GHz processor, 8 GB memory, 128 GB ssd, 64-bit Windows 7

Both are basically the same price.

Thanks 👍🏼
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
32bit OS can only allocate/use up to 4GB of RAM (it's a bit less than that), 64bit OS can allocate up to 128GB (PRO version of Windows 512GB).

TL; DR: You want 64bit to have more RAM.

EDIT: Why do they sell 8GB RAM model with 32bit OS? Thinking
EDIT II: Win7 seems to be a bit different to W10, so the numbers for 64bit Win7 go:

Starter: 8GB
Home Basic: 8GB
Home Premium: 16GB
Professional: 192GB
Enterprise: 192GB
Ultimate: 192GB
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Re: How important is 64 bit compared to 32? Reply with quote
byke95 wrote:
Hi all,

I’m after some tech advice. Which is the better (general browsing, photo editing, no gaming) laptop?

1. Intel Core i5 (i5-5300U) 2.30 GHz processor, 8 GB memory, 256 GB ssd, 32-bit Windows 7 or

2 Intel Core i5 (i5-4310U) 2.00 GHz processor, 8 GB memory, 128 GB ssd, 64-bit Windows 7

Both are basically the same price.

Thanks 👍🏼

Number 2. I assume you will be upgrading Windoze anyway. As RCZ says, No. 1 can't use all its memory anyway.

Are you sure that number 1 really is 32-bit, and it hasn't just had 32-bit Windoze 7 installed on it for some odd reason?
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RhynoCZ
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
The only reason to run 32bit OS these days, is backwards compatibility with some ''vintage, hard to run under 64bit OS'' software.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Windows should be 64bit all day long.

Get rid of Win7, move to Win10, 64bit.

Didn't think you could buy Win7 anymore (assuming these are used as they are aids-gen i5's.)
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Windows 7 end of life is January, save yourself the hassle.
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byke95
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks all. Sounds like 64 bit is the way to go.

Both are ‘grade A’ refurbished laptops direct from Dell. The oddest thing it that the 32 bit is the same price only by virtue of being on sale, and was previously £100 more expensive. Curious 🤔
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
EDIT: Why do they sell 8GB RAM model with 32bit OS? Thinking

Because people will buy them. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
byke95 wrote:
Thanks all. Sounds like 64 bit is the way to go.

Both are ‘grade A’ refurbished laptops direct from Dell. The oddest thing it that the 32 bit is the same price only by virtue of being on sale, and was previously £100 more expensive. Curious 🤔


Now I understand. Back when those laptops were brand new, in the W7 times, the 32bit one had only 4GB of RAM installed, perhaps even less, and as I know laptops, the installation file of the OS is on the main hard drive, with the OS licence bonded with this very laptop. Dell doing refurbishing did not touch this licence and perhaps not even the original hard drive (maybe the drive got cloned to a new one). Also, RAM is cheap these days and I bet Dell has full buckets of either new (old but never used) RAM modules or used modules from all those laptops that people returned to them as faulty. Dell knew it would be hard to sell a laptop with 2GB/4GB RAM these days, so they stuffed more RAM in.

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PostPosted: 19:29 - 20 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get the 32bit laptop, its spec is much better. Then buy a copy of 64 bit windows 10 off ebay for £2 and install it.

A faster processor and twice the size of SSD are far more useful than which windows version it has.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 25 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Get the 32bit laptop, its spec is much better. Then buy a copy of 64 bit windows 10 off ebay for £2 and install it.

A faster processor and twice the size of SSD are far more useful than which windows version it has.


Just be warned, the cheap Win10 codes you get off ebay will ONLY work on a fresh install. Trying to use them to upgrade will fail, and block the code being used for a fresh install ... There's a reason they're cheap Wink
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 26 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Get the 32bit laptop, its spec is much better. Then buy a copy of 64 bit windows 10 off ebay for £2 and install it.

A faster processor and twice the size of SSD are far more useful than which windows version it has.


Just be warned, the cheap Win10 codes you get off ebay will ONLY work on a fresh install. Trying to use them to upgrade will fail, and block the code being used for a fresh install ... There's a reason they're cheap Wink


He needs a fresh install anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 26 Oct 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Indeed, 32>64 is 100% fresh.

Also, only a mong installs Windows over Windows.
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