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I read a book by this guy years ago on jewish holocaust charoties and how corrupt they are. Hes a respected academic and expert on the Israeli/Palastine situation.
Norman Finklestein talking about the Corbyn anti-semitism thing.
https://youtu.be/OPYfLY2cAi4
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https://youtu.be/JEX5OGmXLz4 |
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mpd72 wrote: |
Because Muslims won't tolerate anyone who doesn't convert to their way of life?
It's not just Jews they hate, it's everyone who isn't a Muslim. They even blow up innocent Swedish women and children. When have Sweden attacked the Mussies? |
Again, I'm not disputing that either, you're telling me things we already know and won't deny.
Anyway, we're wandering off topic here as the thread is about anti semitism. Everything I said, and trust me that's a fraction of what's factual and out there , illustrates quite clearly why it exists but you don't need to accept it, that is your right.
But it goes back way before the creation of Israel it's been ongoing for centuries.
There are 109 documented cases in history of Jewish expulsion from various countries/cities in the last couple of millennia. 109. I mean if you knew of someone that had been kicked out of 109 pubs itheir life would you not think for a moment that it might be THEM that had the problem?
I'm not trying to convince anyone or get all smart arsey with esoteric historical facts because it is what it is.
The truth is what benefits Jews. Anything else is anti semitism, racism, hate speech, xenophobia or bigotry. |
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AldridgePrior wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
Because Muslims won't tolerate anyone who doesn't convert to their way of life?
It's not just Jews they hate, it's everyone who isn't a Muslim. They even blow up innocent Swedish women and children. When have Sweden attacked the Mussies? |
Again, I'm not disputing that either, you're telling me things we already know and can't deny.
Anyway, we're wandering off topic here as the thread is about anti semitism. Everything I said, and trust me that's a fraction of what's factual and out there , illustrates quite clearly why it exists, but you don't need to accept it, that is your right.
But it goes back way before the creation of Israel it's been ongoing for centuries.
There are 109 documented cases in history of Jewish expulsion from various countries/cities in the last couple of millennia. 109. I mean if you knew of someone that had been kicked out of 109 pubs in their life would you not think for a moment that it might be THEM that had the problem?
I'm not trying to convince anyone or get all smart arsey with esoteric historical facts because it is what it is.
The truth is what benefits Jews. Anything else is anti semitism, racism, hate speech, xenophobia or bigotry. |
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Lord Percy wrote: | As far as I'm aware, there was never a country called Palestine at all!
But I think you're deliberately toying with meaning here, instead of focusing on the point. Whether these folk have an officially recognised country or not, they are still being treated as second class citizens. It's an obvious apartheid, and is sadly condoned by the west because Israel is backed by America.
Sure, you could be really blunt and simply accept that Israel were the aggressors in a territorial war and they won, so Palestinians should just leave. But that doesn't really help. Do you want more refugees heading toward Europe? |
First thing I'm thinking: who gets to decide when/where we set the line that "it's these peoples' land." It's far too easy to say "Israeli Parasites" but that implies that the people there before (who we'll nominally refer to as the Palestinians) have more "rights" than the Jews that were later installed. But the Palestinians took the land from someone else who took the land from someone else etc. all the way back thousands of years. It's one of the most hotly contested plots of land in history. I really don't see what's special about the Palestinians.
Why is it called "Israel"? Because back in history people with and awful lot of money, guns and vested interests said so. It seems to be the height of hubris to believe we're now in some enlightened age where these things can get sorted out with a polite chat.
However I concede that keeping some "natives" to kick about as a low paid underclass is pretty uncouth. Kick 'em all out and be done with it rather than a steady stream of cruelty. Refugees? Somebody else's problem; that is the policy of most countries.
I do wonder why the Palestinians stick to the Gaza Strip and the West Bank like limpets when we have a deluge of "refugees" crossing Europe. One might even go as far as to believe unseen forces outside of Israel have an interest in keeping them there ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Ultimately I feel the mostly left-wing hang wringing over "native peoples" leads us down a bizarre rabbit hole where we all self-flagellate with nettles and barbed wire for killing off the Neanderthals all those years ago
About the only group I have any sympathy for is the Aborigines in Australia - so-called "civilisation" hasn't done them any favours at all - but the Palestinians aren't anywhere close to what you could call "an ancient and noble indigenous people." ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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To play devil's advocate, how would you feel if the Germans had invaded us in WWII, or even Napoleon in the 19th Century? Do you think criticism of your desire to get rid of them would be justified on grounds of you not being able to trace your lineage back to the Flintstones? ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | To play devil's advocate, how would you feel if the Germans had invaded us in WWII, or even Napoleon in the 19th Century? Do you think criticism of your desire to get rid of them would be justified on grounds of you not being able to trace your lineage back to the Flintstones? |
We would all be under the impression it was for the best. The winner writes history.
Anyway, if the Nazi's had won, I'm sure Jeremy would happily oversee the Jewish extermination in Britain.
On a serious note, when do these atrocities expire?
We have the guilt for African slaves, no one gives a monkeys about the slaves Rome took.
We have the Muslim troubles now, no one remembers the amount killed and enslaved when they took Constantinople, an estimated 50000 enslaved or killed, or the fact the Ottoman empire was built on slavery.
Stalin killed way more of his own people than the war did. Killed way more than Hitler did but while it is acknowledged, he isn't vilified like Hitler. Winner wins.
It is pretty well agreed the Roman invasion of Britain brought civilisation to our island. I'm not sure Boudica and her daughters and people would have held that view.
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Polarbear wrote: | Diggs wrote: | To play devil's advocate, how would you feel if the Germans had invaded us in WWII, or even Napoleon in the 19th Century? Do you think criticism of your desire to get rid of them would be justified on grounds of you not being able to trace your lineage back to the Flintstones? |
We would all be under the impression it was for the best. The winner writes history.
Let's be honest, we all twist history to suit our beliefs. |
True enough about the winner writing history. Not sure whether 80 years of German history books would be enough to convince us that the invasion was in our best interests though!!!
My point remains - should an invaded and subjugated population not have the right to defend itself against the invader, even some years after the event?
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Interesting idea. By that rule the Palestinians still have 29 years of legitimate gripe though...
As for the other, if following form the Nazis would also have gotten rid of the LGBTXYZs, Gypsies, disabled and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Some here may argue this to be a good thing as it would mean no more Mel and Sue, curses from lucky heather beggars and unwanted knocks on the door on Sunday mornings. It could also be argued that it would free up the closest parking spaces at the supermarket.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 181 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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