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Posted: 12:30 - 18 Nov 2019 Post subject: Big Brother |
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How do you all feel about the latest craze for voice control Internet devices? You know the thing, the Google Nest Mini speaker type things or Microsoft's "Cortana", or Google's "Alexa"?
I've just bought my sister one for her birthday as that's what she wants, but personally, I'm not sure I like the idea of it listening to everything going on in my house 24 hours a day, just in case I ask it something.
Surely Google could learn everything about you and your privacy is gone? What if we ended up with forced BT Corbynreach broadband too?
As far fetched as Orwell's 1984 felt in 1984, it's surprising how much of it is coming true 35 years later. We have thought crime, where people are charged for thinking of, but not actually committing a crime, we have government spying on us, media controlled by increasingly far left socialists.
1984 depicted a dark future where technology exists in the public realm only as a tool for the elite to control society. - tick.
It predicted "telescreens" where the state could monitor people's movements by facial recognition. This already happens in China China China where 500,000 members of the Uighur Muslim minority are being tracked by facial recognition cameras.
"Speakwrite" - Orwell predicted a device which you could speak into which would turn those words into text. Yep.
There are many other similarities too, but the way the proles are now being controlled and monitored via the equivalent of "telescreens" is quite shocking when you think about it. It's kind of sneaked in and people are just accepting it, like the farce where we still pretend an elected government run the country on behalf of the democratic majority, when in fact individuals such a Miller or Bercrow, plus the 650 members of parliament can over rule democracy.
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I'd watch that Alexa device if I were her. We have had one for a year now, and it does listen to everything that is said. Try mentioning any product or situation repeatedly and see how quickly adverts for it appear on her news-feed....
Nice the way you've slipped JC, Miller and Bercow into your topic though! ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 12:50 - 18 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: | I'd watch that Alexa device if I were her. We have had one for a year now, and it does listen to everything that is said. Try mentioning any product or situation repeatedly and see how quickly adverts for it appear on her news-feed.... |
Someone mentioned exactly the same thing last night. I just presumed they'd been browsing the Internet for the same subject and tracking cookies picked it up, but they insisted it was a topic they were discussing at home, but hadn't searched over.
Diggs wrote: | Nice the way you've slipped JC, Miller and Bercow into your topic though! |
It's very relevant in my eyes. 1984 was about a communist dictatorship government. Even though we pretend to be living in a democracy, the whole charade has become fairly obvious if late. Bercrow has met with the EU to find ways of cancelling Brexit, then used his powers to direct parliament in many attempts to do so.
Miller is an immigrant who's used her wealth to fight the result of a democratic vote.
Corbyn is the leader of the opposition and quite clearly a fan of extreme socialism. His "Momentum" club are getting further and further towards communism. When he finally imports enough immigrants, eventually, he or his successors, who could be even further left, will be in charge of the country.
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Posted: 13:03 - 18 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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The scarier part of it listening to everything is how it will sell that data on to third parties. For example you could be talking about health symptoms with a family member, or maybe you start slurring your words more often, which Alexa is only to happy to listen to. Alexa can use this data and sell to interested parties.. such as life insurance companies who will then happily increase annual rates etc.
It's scary!
Google already do crazy things... for example the reCaptcha system for deterring spammers was actually used to digitise archives of old books. They also use the reCaptcha photo system, the "Select all images which have a traffic light" boxes to train driverless cars how to navigate the streets.
I listened to a podcast where an expert explained that simply recording the way you move your mouse to click the "I am not a robot " check box will tell them a lot about your health.
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When I first seen this thread it reminded me of the double murder case where the judge has ordered Amazon to hand over the recordings from the 2 days surrounding the murders.
Just doing a quick search there are loads of sites that claim various devices are recording, but the BBC have done some research and said there's no proof of them recording anything |
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All I can say is I hope the Alexa in the bedroom doesn't have a camera. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Posted: 15:57 - 18 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Complaining about privacy and using facebook seems counter productive
I stuffed blutack into my LG tv's mic |
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Yes, it's good isn't it. |
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Trouble is, I am bombarded with Viagra adverts now... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Top marks for shoe-horning in so many political points for what would still have been an interesting topic
I don't recall the government in 1984 specifically referred to as Communist. IngSoc (English Socialists) might imply it but you wouldn't say the National Socialists were left wing!
Anyhoo, fuck knows what Google is thinking in my house as the wife is heavily into TV murder mysteries and those documentaries about serial killers! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 20:16 - 18 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Easy-X wrote: | Top marks for shoe-horning in so many political points for what would still have been an interesting topic
I don't recall the government in 1984 specifically referred to as Communist. IngSoc (English Socialists) might imply it but you wouldn't say the National Socialists were left wing!
Anyhoo, fuck knows what Google is thinking in my house as the wife is heavily into TV murder mysteries and those documentaries about serial killers! |
I disagree . The whole point of the story was to point out what can happen to socialism when it gets bastardised by a totalitarian government.
This is what happened in both Nazi Germany and Communist Russia. Both regimes were born from socialism. There was even a part of the book which mentioned how Ingsoc was the continuation of what almost happened under Nazi Germany and Communist Russia.
Quote: | The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that |
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It might not fit your agenda, but It’s true though isn’t it?
Antisemitism is rife, they've Worked hard to infiltrate and control the media and education, to indoctrinate the youth. Jesus H, they even parade The Fuhrer on stage at Glastonbury festival.
The use of a Nordic girl as the face of the climate fascist movement is incredibly similar to how the Nazis operated. She looks almost identical, have you not seen the photos?
Both born out of a socialist ideology. Both getting a reputation for electoral fraud and cheating to get into power.
The only difference is Hitler had a far better taste in women and i’m Sorry to say it, but even Hitler had more of a grasp of reality than Corbyn. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 161 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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