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Posted: 00:07 - 16 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Of all the bikes I've put serious distance on - ER6f, VFR800 VTEC, SH300 - the ER6f was the most reliable by some way.
SH300s tend to burn oil and the needle bearings in the final drive disintegrate into a fine grinding powder in the oil bath, especially if an impact wrench has been used to undo the clutch nut or possibly the wheel nut. I haven't owned an SH that didn't need final drive bearing replacement at some point, and topping up between oil changes once they've done 10+k.
VFR let me down so many times with the charging system. Stator burned itself out twice, reg/recs replaced, connector blocks shorting out. Stranded me multiple times.
Brutale was pretty reliable, but the connector block to the main relay burnt itself up at one point, and later it developed a mysterious misfire on one of the cylinders that went away after I swapped around the coils. It never stranded me though.
YBR, PS, Vity were all reliable, but I didn't ride any of them more than 8k. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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Easy-X wrote: | stevo as b4 wrote: | ..You keep banging on about EFI vs carbs, but it's not a choice to have on most bikes... |
Just trying to keep the conversation going. I feel there's a certain purity to the purely mechanical nature to carburettors but EFI is technically better. But the downside is it's all controlled by an ECU which is a black box you can't tinker with on the road. |
On the other hand, I've had a few problems with carbed singles.
We had a work hack Piaggio that developed starting and running issues, effed about with it (no joy) went to the local scooter place and bought a new carb, all fixed.
Similar issue with a customer's old quad, wouldn't start or run on anything less than part throttle, no amount of fiddling with settings helped, put a 20 quid carb from China on it yesterday, sorted.
I asked the bloke at the scooter place what goes wrong with them (we're all old lags, well versed in rebuilding/setting up things like Strombergs and Webers, so there was a challenge going begging) and he said they just seem to get to a point were nothing works - the evidence suggests he was right.
Also, try googling Honda Superdream or BMW twin carb failure - there's stories out there that will leave you wishing everything had Efi ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
20 RE Interceptor, 83 Z1100A3, 83 GS650 Katana
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stonesie World Chat Champion
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My first big bike, an SV650 never put a foot wrong, I did maintainance things like brakes and servicing but other than that it was reliable but a bit boring.
The Ducati was a nightmare, a 2013 Multistrada, in 8 months of ownership it was back to the dealer 6 times with electrical faults and vibration issues, the rear light snapped it's mounts and fell out on one ride. |
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Posted: 00:20 - 17 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Kawasaki seem to have got FI right back in '83 from my experience, and my current bike, a model that hit the showrooms 18 years later, is carbs and has been equally reliable, my particular one now being 14 years old.
Actually, the carbs on it are now 17 years old, did about 30k miles on the bike they originally came from, and have now done a further 30-odd k miles on this bike, all with no problems. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 09:18 - 17 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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Ever?
ZZR1100 - However, it was 3 years old at the time. It's to be expected.
Recently, after my license had it's Swansea holiday?
Hyosung GA125F. The only time it let me down was entirely my fault for putting on a shit air filter that was too restrictive. It may have been a matt black rat, but it just worked despite me wringing it's neck everywhere. Every other bike, except the ZZR has let me down in a way I couldn't have foreseen, and I've pushed them or had them recovered. I'm excluding the current work hack, I've not had it long.
Carbs vs EFI?
EFI is nice this time of year for starting in the morning. However, the 250 has a weird hunting thing it does for a minute before it warms up properly and settles.Once warm, and while riding, it's fine, no noticable lag or flatspots, it works about as well as you can expect a 250 single to work - I'm more worried about the gearbox.
Carbs are still a bit weird to me (I'm not young either) - that said, I have quals in Electronics, I get how EFI works, I'm still learning stuff about carbs beyond basic operation and maintenance. ____________________ '98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine) |
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99% of gearboxes are bulletproof imho.
In all the years I’ve been involved with bikes, I’ve never had a gearbox let me down or leave me on the side of the road.
Clutches yes, dodgy wiring yes, bad carb set up yes, frayed/snapped cables yes, .
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Posted: 12:43 - 17 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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pepperami wrote: | 99% of gearboxes are bulletproof imho.
In all the years I’ve been involved with bikes, I’ve never had a gearbox let me down or leave me on the side of the road. |
I'd have been right with you until this one. It's has a distinct dislike of changing down without making sure you engage the box between every change, and 2nd to either neutral or first is a lottery. Waiting for an oil filter to arrive, then we'll see if a change and filter sorts anything out.
That said, I pretty sure it's a a CBR250R (single pot, not the older 4 pot screamer) derived motor, so I may take a punt on parts from one of those if bad things did happen and I found one cheaply enough. If I'm lucky, it'll just be a dog that's worn from noobie abuse, and nothing more. If I'm not, I break it/sell it for fairings etc. Engine itself seems ok, just the box is picky. ____________________ '98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine) |
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Suzuki GT500- bought at 13k miles , scrapped at ~ 130k miles, everything worn out at same time, failed once - piston crown came off at 70 mph in 4th gear- two rebores, etc. while using it - but reliable for a bike. ____________________ previous C50,CD175,GT500,GSX250,CB750KZ,GSX750E,GSX1300R |
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kev2b4 wrote: | Suzuki GT500- bought at 13k miles , scrapped at ~ 130k miles, everything worn out at same time, failed once - piston crown came off at 70 mph in 4th gear- two rebores, etc. while using it - but reliable for a bike. |
130K Wow... I'd want to hang it on a wall somewhere ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 08:28 - 20 Nov 2019 Post subject: Kawasaki Z900 |
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Kawasaki Z900 would be the most perfectly suited and reliable bike for me since I have been using it for quite a while now and I totally fell in love with it.
But, I am thinking to https://totalguide.org/best-balance-bike/ buy a balance bike for my kid from Strider brand. ____________________ .. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 157 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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