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Posted: 19:01 - 28 Nov 2019 Post subject: Autism? |
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Saw this story being misreported by the local left leaning rag.
https://www.kent.police.uk/news/kent/news2/policing-news/1911/men-jailed-over-assault-on-tunbridge-wells-teenager/
They claimed the boy was just beaten up in broad daylight, hinting that it was unprovoked and because he has a form of "autism".
Now, I know around 1 in 5 teenagers now are diagnosed as "being on the spectrum", as one of my nephews and half my mates kids are apparently part of this trendy diagnosis. When did the spectrum include offering out nasty looking strangers as you walk past them, getting told to shut it or they'll beat you up, then deciding to offer them out again when you walk past them again a few hours later?
That's kind of like "beat me up" Tourettes isn't it? Shouldn't laugh but...
Quote: | He would often speak his thoughts out loud and as he passed Butterworth and Hart asked them ‘what are you looking at?’ |
In other words, he offered them out.
Quote: | The pair made threats he would be beaten if he said anything else and a short time later the victim walked past them again. |
And........ dum dum durrr....
Quote: | On this occasion he again spoke about being looked at, prompting Butterworth to chase him and throw him to the ground. |
Ah, he offered them out again.
I know "autism" takes a lot of forms, but autistic or not, surely the 17 year old learn't a valuable life lesson here, that it's not OK to keep offering people out as you walk past them as some will take you up on the offer. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I think you live in a very strange and angry world where you would consider it in any way OK to beat someone up for talking. Regardless of what they say.
The only time I can think of resorting to physical violence based on someones words rather than just countering or simply walking away is if they made credible threats of harm towards my nearest and dearest. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The Artist wrote: | I went to school with a couple of kids who were so far left of the spectrum, mpd would have them deported to autism land.
They really did not know better and could not think rationally. Sucks to be them because their life probably didn't go anywhere but at the time as an ignorant teenager, I thought they were cunts.
I know you won't but it would be nice if in a few years when you've had time to mature a bit, you come back and read some of your own posts on here because it is so depressing to read how angry you are at everything that isn't exactly to your liking. |
Did it ever cross your mind that they might just have been cunts?
Nobody in modern blame culture is responsible for their actions.
Bad parenting has produced lots of little cunts. The parents won’t take the blame so look for an excuse. Low and behold, 1 in 5 kids suddenly has autism.
The point is, you can read that story as the 17 year old having no control over his vocal chords due to his diagnoses “ism”. You could also see that he’s a cocky little shit with a bad attitude and rubbed the wrong people up, the wrong way, not once, but twice.
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Posted: 23:17 - 28 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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mpd72 wrote: |
“What you looking at” is generally a good way to start a fight.
The story was worded in the local rag to paint him as being beaten up for having autism. In reality, he provoked the pair, was warned and when he had a second opportunity later on, provoked them again.
Now this 17 year old could be seriously autistic, but on the other hand he could be just like all the other little shits who’s parents and school teachers use Autism as an excuse for his behaviour.
When he reaches 18 he can perfect talking to strangers in pubs with “did you just spill me pint” . Should go down just as well. |
The point you totally missed is that it's not HIM that's the cunt. It's them. It would still be them if he wasn't autistic. What the fuck gives someone the right to "warn" (or put another way, threaten with violence) anyone else? There was no need for them to engage with him at all other than an unstable/pathological mental attitude on their part. They could easily have ignored him, which is what I generally do if someone is behaving like a dick around me. They chose not to, so it's all on them.
The person who starts a fight is the person who started the fight. Not the person who spilled their pint, looked at their bird, sat in their seat, wore the wrong colour t-shirt on a football weekend, "gave them lip", is black, muslim, gay or is generally stood about maliciously looking or sounding different to them. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I'll relate a story about one such instance of "called my pint a poof" idiocy in a pub.
I was in a local pub with some mates, not one I'm a regular in. It was pretty empty. Nobody using the pool table. Nobody in the lounge at all as it happens. So we put a few coins down to have a few games.
Finshed the first game and a local rocks over and offers to have a game with one mate. Fine. He won. Next news he's all "winner stays on.". Politely told no, we've come in to play each other, there's three more people in the queue, if you want to play someone, put your money down and find someone who wants to play you.
Next news he's squaring up, f-ing and blinding and waving his queue about. Wants to see me outside. Classic wee angry man and I was the biggest lad there.
What do you do in that situation that by similar reasoning I "provoked"? Continue arguing? Let him play on? Stick the head on him? (can't say I wasn't tempted).
No. You go through into the bar and tell the landlord who comes through, tells him to leave and bars him for a fortnight. Which is exactly what did happen. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 23:41 - 28 Nov 2019 Post subject: |
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stinkwheel wrote: | I'll relate a story about one such instance of "called my pint a poof" idiocy in a pub.
I was in a local pub with some mates, not one I'm a regular in. It was pretty empty. Nobody using the pool table. Nobody in the lounge at all as it happens. So we put a few coins down to have a few games.
Finshed the first game and a local rocks over and offers to have a game with one mate. Fine. He won. Next news he's all "winner stays on.". Politely told no, we've come in to play each other, there's three more people in the queue, if you want to play someone, put your money down and find someone who wants to play you.
Next news he's squaring up, f-ing and blinding and waving his queue about. Wants to see me outside. Classic wee angry man and I was the biggest lad there.
What do you do in that situation that by similar reasoning I "provoked"? Continue arguing? Let him play on? Stick the head on him? (can't say I wasn't tempted).
No. You go through into the bar and tell the landlord who comes through, tells him to leave and bars him for a fortnight. Which is exactly what did happen. |
Not sure how that’s relevant.
Would you walk up to two nasty looking strangers and say in a surly voice...
“Wot you looking at!?”
No you wouldn’t, because you’d stand a very good chance of them attacking you.
When they replied by telling you to shut it or you’ll get a beating, would you then, when you saw them again shortly after come out with the same
“Wot you looking at?!”.
Of course you wouldn’t. The attackers were twats, but the surly teen with mild “cuntism” was the one who created the confrontation, not once but twice and after being warned. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Not sure how that’s relevant.
Would you walk up to two nasty looking strangers and say in a survey voice...
“Wot you looking at!?”
No you wouldn’t, because you’d stand a very good chance of them attacking you.
When they replied by telling you to shut it or you’ll get a beating, would you then, when you saw them again shortly after come out with the same
“Wot you looking at?!”.
Of course you wouldn’t. The attackers were twats, but the surly teen with mild “cuntism” was the one who created the confrontation, not once but twice and after being warned. |
I wouldn't but it's still THEM who are wholly in the wrong because being asked what you are looking at is not an excuse for perpetrating physical violence on someone.
It's them who were unable to deal with the situation, they created it by their own attitude.
In short, their banter was shite. they could have come out with a witty riposte like "I just didn't think they stacked shite that high.". ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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mpd72 wrote: | The Artist wrote: | I went to school with a couple of kids who were so far left of the spectrum, mpd would have them deported to autism land.
They really did not know better and could not think rationally. Sucks to be them because their life probably didn't go anywhere but at the time as an ignorant teenager, I thought they were cunts.
I know you won't but it would be nice if in a few years when you've had time to mature a bit, you come back and read some of your own posts on here because it is so depressing to read how angry you are at everything that isn't exactly to your liking. |
Did it ever cross your mind that they might just have been cunts?
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Yes, if you read my post, that is exactly what I said. However I was young and didn't really understand what autism was or how it affected people.
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Nobody in modern blame culture is responsible for their actions.
Bad parenting has produced lots of little cunts. The parents won’t take the blame so look for an excuse. Low and behold, 1 in 5 kids suddenly has autism.
The point is, you can read that story as the 17 year old having no control over his vocal chords due to his diagnoses “ism”. You could also see that he’s a cocky little shit with a bad attitude and rubbed the wrong people up, the wrong way, not once, but twice.
Ah but much victim, many autism... |
Yeah you could, which is why I leave such judgement to doctors and other professionals who are trained to identify mental conditions rather than reading an article online and judging the situation based on that.
Autism isn't an excuse for being a cunt but it is a reason and if a grown adult can't restrain themselves from a violent response because someone said something to them, then they deserve to be locked up.
Violent responses have no place in modern society. If you think it was justified, go live with ISIS where they love that sort of thing. |
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I wouldn't but it's still THEM who are wholly in the wrong because being asked what you are looking at is not an excuse for perpetrating physical violence on someone.
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Who created the problem, twice, even after being warned? Yes, they shouldn't have beaten him up, but they warned him after the first time he provoked them. If he's too stupid to take the warming in, then so be it. This would not have happened if he only provoked them once or not at all. He's wholly to blame for creating the situation then ignoring the warning and trying it a second time. How the other two dealt with it is also wrong, but hardly unexpected to most intelligent lifeforms,
There's no helping some people. I'm amazed some people can make it that far in life without basic survival instincts and such a massive chip on their shoulder. If this gobby teenager doesn't wind his neck in, he'll do that to someone who'll stab him at some stage.
My local is a pretty rough drinker, which polices itself due to the regulars. I've never had trouble in there and get on with everyone. Maybe it's because I don't walk around trying to provoke people? This teenager wouldn't last 10 minutes in their with that sort of behaviour. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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The Artist wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
Did it ever cross your mind that they might just have been cunts?
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Yes, if you read my post, that is exactly what I said. However I was young and didn't really understand what autism was or how it affected people. |
But you've just contradicted yourself. As you got conditioned into modern virtue signalling ways, you decided to drop the "cunt" tag and class them as poor victims of an "ism". Such victims, such "isms". Still cunts though.
The Artist wrote: | Yeah you could, which is why I leave such judgement to doctors and other professionals who are trained to identify mental conditions rather than reading an article online and judging the situation based on that. |
Doctors love to over diagnose now, to cover their arses. Parents love the new excuse for the little shits they've brought up. Win-Win.
The Artist wrote: | Autism isn't an excuse for being a cunt but it is a reason and if a grown adult can't restrain themselves from a violent response because someone said something to them, then they deserve to be locked up. |
Real old school, full fat, autism maybe, but now it seems to be handed out like sweets as a tag to excuse any slightly bad behaviour. 1 in 5 kids? Feck off.
The Artist wrote: | Violent responses have no place in modern society. If you think it was justified, go live with ISIS where they love that sort of thing. |
Neither should provoking violence, being warned, ignoring the warning, then provoking violence once again. One person and one person alone, created this situation. What tickled me was how the story in the paper differed from the police version, where they dressed it up as some poor disabled kid who was beaten up for having an "ism", when in reality, said teenager provoked it twice before he managed to wind them up enough to snap. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I don't believe 1 in 5 kids has Autism, never said that, you said you heard that somewhere.
Stop trying to push your agenda that this beating was somehow justified because this kid, autism or not, said something. |
It's not an agenda, it's common sense and manners. You do not approach strangers and offer them out, which is what the phrase "Wot Chu Lookin at?!" means. You don't then ignore a request to shut it, by taking the same opportunity to offer them out again, the next time they see you.
That's stupid, a special kind of stupid.
I love how all the forum virtue signallers can't see past their programming on this one. Not one of you would behave like this because you all know you'd end up getting beaten up, so why defend this attitude problem idiot, who the press and his mother are using the excuse of a mild case of "cuntism" for?
He went twice looking for trouble and found it, yet you want to blame the trouble he put himself into.
As for the fashion of blaming bad behaviour on autism? When I was a kid it was obvious when someone had autism. Now, I'm not sure if it's doctors or parents diagnosing it, but at least 1 in 5 of my friends kids are tagged as being "on the spectrum". It's far to easy to use it as an excuse for being a little shit nowadays. As a society, we love creating victims rather than admitting people have fecked up. 1 in 3 children are poor apparently. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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I like how you're calling him a cunt for provoking a reaction, yet you do that all day every day in here. What are you going to do when the day comes you get your turn because of something you said to someone online? Will that be because you're autism personified? ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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