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Riejufixing
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Rear-ended. Checks? Reply with quote

RS3 125, rear-ended at roundabout, I'm told bike was stationary, then pushed forward about three bike lengths and "wheelied" as it was pushed. Bumper of offending car intact. Looks as though the blow was taken by the back wheel of the bike only.

Obvious damage, as viewed in the dark: front top RHS fairing scraped, front RHS indicator smashed, exhaust heatshield (sheet metal pressing) distorted, handlebar brake lever broken, rear L-plate holder attached to bottom of numberplate broken.

About to get it out of the van & have a look. Advice?

EDIT: Further info: The driver seems to have been waiting behind the rider, and assumed the rider had moved off, and then rear-ended the bike. The "wheelie" might have lifted the front wheel 1' approximately. Bike propelled into traffic on roundabout, which fortunately did not collide with bike or rider.


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PostPosted: 12:40 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheelied and 3 car lengths? That wasn't just a tap.

I think you have to check the frame/swing arm isn't bent.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just be checking if the other driver is insured, and claim.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

piazza wrote:
I'd just be checking if the other driver is insured, and claim.


He'll probably say the bike reversed into him. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
piazza wrote:
I'd just be checking if the other driver is insured, and claim.


He'll probably say the bike reversed into him. Rolling Eyes

"She". Smile
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an insurance job.

The force has either gone through the rear wheel or the subframe.

If the subframe took it, then they are generally fairly weak and should crumple a bit rather than transfer the force through to the frame.

If the wheel took it, then the force has gone through rear wheel, axle, bearings, swingarm, swingarm pivot and its bearings to get to the frame.

For peace of mind I would be stripping down the back end, checking axles and pivots for straightness and replacing wheel and swingarm bearings. Realistically, I would be calling the insurance company.

This happened to me a couple of years ago. They paid out a grand for bike repairs and personal injury (ooh, my back) with no evidence or inspection. Didn't need a lawyer, everything was done over the phone with the other side's insurance company. More than a grand would have required evidence.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know the drill! Laughing

Seriously, don't piss about. Just claim her insurance, this can be the first crash she doesn't get away with Thumbs Up

I'd be contacting her insurance direct if it was me
It'll probably be a write off anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyre and wheel might also be damaged.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, looking at the machine, the parts bill is about £220.

However.

An unexpected call from the other driver's insurance company, admitting liability, means it's off to be looked at by someone else. A 125 scooter (?) will be provided for the time being.

My guess is it's repairable, but we'll see. Can't see any serious bends/breaks of major parts, wheel is true/aligment OK, bumper/tarmac scuffs visible on tyre, no gouging. It was plastic bumper to tyre after all, not hammer on anvil.

This was already "Cat N" (used to be: Cat C), repaired to an excellent standard (!). What difference that may make I don't know.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Figure on losing about 75% of its value. I bought an automatic micra for the wench, it too was a cat c? a crash rendered it a write off a few months later.

The cheque for £34 paid for beers and a curry Mad

Yes I know that's not 75% of it's value but that's insurance for you.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 01 Dec 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Wheelied and 3 car lengths? That wasn't just a tap.

I think you have to check the frame/swing arm isn't bent.


More like a slight tap and rider dumped clutch while twisting throttle...
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