Heated Gloves/Jacket Liners?

[SirFallalot]

I was surprised you found the gerbings so shite in general as most reviews class them as them either the best or near that. I actually wanted to change my keis for them.

Well, update on the Keis:
Still only have one working glove as J&S open hours match my work hours and they aren't open sundays

On these chilly mornings I find that with the Keis off my hands start getting cold at 15 mins and freezing at 30m, while my winter gloves only get cold at 30m, backs of hands stay ok and fingers get progressively colder and colder.
With the Keis on medium the back of the hand remains hot, but fingers still get uncomfortably cold after a point. I class them as a 3 season glove as Winter is not one of them as I don't find them very windproof.

I'm going to try wearing some form of liner to see if it helps...
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[kramdra]

Can only assume mkst have not tried the chinese inserts. Yes they are a faff, but once you get them correctly positioned they will generally stay there. Not perfect, but they are far hotter, and long enough to wrap the fingertips.

Please note a 5 quid spool of heating wire, at retail prices, will do quite a few gloves. Iam discusted at the profit they'll be making for such a shit glove.

[NJD]

[Undinist]

It's a risk. It would have made more sense to go 1 mile to my local Infinity and try on some Keis ones. Not sure why I didn't do that tbh. Brainfart.

[Undinist]

So the Dane Fyres arrived today. They look great, superb leather. And the packaging is terrific. But no instructions in the box or online. And the batteries are dead - won't take a charge. And the gloves are the wrong size - so much for the Dane online sizing guide. And one of them has a small cut on the edge of the battery pocket. The battery is a tight fit, so getting it in and out would cause the cut to grow. So back they go. Useless heap of garbage. I'm not going to try them connected directly to the battery because the quality control is so fucking shitty that they'd probably cause the bike to explode.

[billyray911]

This winter I’ve ordered some cheap Richa Carbon winter gloves -I’ve gone a size bigger and some Keis G102 liners.I’ve also bought a Keis X20 heated vest that connects to the gloves.
I was going to buy some sw motech Kobra handguards and use these with heated grips and winter gloves,but I’m not convinced that handguards will be that good-and what I’ve bought will cost less and will hopefully be more effective.

[Undinist]

[kramdra]

Send them back. You dont pay that much for a shit design product. There is no technical reason to not have heating at the tips, because Ive done it.

My new chinese wire inserts have not arrived yet, I cant wait to try them.

Until then I am using last years, worn out, chinese carbon element type. When they go bad it is the base of the thumb - gets hot spot that makes unusable. Solution - peel back the cloth, move the carbon strip accross the thumb gap to remove it from cicuit. Glue and tape up, cut the thumb off, and have thumb-less warm fingers. Works great. Dont need thumbs heated anyway with heated grips.

[Undinist]

I've just been to Infinity and tried on some Gerbings and RSTs. Unfortunately the shop does not have the equipment for heating them. But it seemed to me that their leather is of much lower quality than the Dane Fyres. I wouldn't expect them to last long, but I reckon the Dane Fyres would go on for years, and would also be much more protective from abrasion when crashing.

The guy who works at Infinity says nobody makes gloves with a heating element on the fingertip because it would wear out from all the pressing of buttons. (I've had the index fingertip wear right through on leather summer gloves.)

I also learned that the three models of Racer heated glove on the Infinity site https://www.infinitymotorcycles.com/store/gloves/heated-gloves will not be in stock anytime soon because until the other day the Racer UK distributor was unaware that Racer makes any heated gloves.

[NJD]

[Kris]

The Gerbings last fine.

Mine are on their 3rd winter. Honestly - have you tried them properly?
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[kramdra]

[Undinist]

I tried on the Gerbing GT briefly in the shop. That's my only experience of them. They didn't seem bulky. I think they would be very easy from an ergonomical point of view. And they're only £140.

https://www.thevisorshop.com/en/gb/Gerbing-GT-Heated-Motorcycle-Gloves/m-26646.aspx?PartnerID=21&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5dPuBRCrARIsAJL7oei50lRwDvy6DZvgG8kOS63rpnXdviuWyHyCmVd5ixyJ8gBuVi-r8uMaAmVyEALw_wcB

[kramdra]

New insert fitted and connected to test rig. Massively better than the old ones and much easier to fit. Pic below is just using pvc tape for a quick test - which is only good for one or two days - ideally sew the finger tips to overlap like this (do with closed fist). They will generally stay put in the glove rarely need adjustment.

https://i.postimg.cc/L5C4Y9xT/IMG-20191120-222145.jpg

Resistance 11.1R (per glove)
Its listed as 7.4v. Ive tried upto 12v and its fine, unsure if I will try 14.7v as it will be getting too hot and unsure about controller. It would be best to pre-regulate down to the max power that you want with a suitable buck controller.

5V is weak, 0.45A, 2.25w
7.4v * 0.66A = 4.884w, getting better.
9v * 0.79A = 7.11w
10.4v *0.92A = 9.57w - getting toasty (indoors with a winter glove!) but perfectly distributed.
12v * 1.08A = 12.96w
14.7 * 1.31A = 19W

In series without controller would be 9.73W total, 5w per glove, not quite enough but much better than nothing.

[DJP]

I've been using Gerbings for a couple of years. They're excellent.
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[SirFallalot]

That's a very nice diy.

Anyways:

I tried the new Gerbing microwrite gloves at motorcycle live and I think they would have made a much better purchase than Keis.

Think I'm gonna stick them on ebay and get the Gerbils...
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[kramdra]

[kramdra]

Update - havent needed them with warm wet weather. This week is colder, so put some effort in.
These tiny things arrived, small as thumb nail.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Mini-DC-DC-Converter-Step-Down-Module-Adjustable-1V-5V-12V-16V-Supply-V9G6/323907491088
set to 9.5v, roughtly 8w/5w/2.5w, and seal in epoxy for weather protection.

Works bloody well, warm to the tips. Got a spare pair and for those I will move controllers to jacket. I dont want to sew into gloves and having it loose doednt offer much strain relief,

[Undinist]

I swapped my Dane Fyres for a smaller size, and they're lovely. Perfect fit too. But I haven't needed them because I haven't been on any decent journeys in the cold. Doh! All that expense for nothing. I'm now hoping for a new ice age.

[BTTD]

[kramdra]

Bike relay > switch> bike cables > jacket split cable > glove jacket connector > mini buck regulator > insert controller > insert ( buck and pwm seperate for each glove)

The buck pcb doesnt even get warm, very impressed.

The insert controller has some undocumented lock mode, where it shows light blue and wont heat. Had me baffled for a while, but im guessing rapid press or holding will lock or unlock it.

[kramdra]

Small update. Glove inserts have been bloody brilliant, using on low most of the time, even when its not cold. Only needed to pull out to readjust once - where as the other inserts I was doing every couple of days. The pwm controller is a pain Im going to change preset voltage on mine to 8 2v and remove the silly pwm thing - 6 seconds of fiddling about pressing buttons each time I start bike. It will instead be always on when the jacket switches are on. Reminds me of the awful oxford hot grips. Note that the Gerbings sre exactly the same controller, and were utter shite.


And these arrived tooday. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Heated-Socks-Boot-Feet-Warmer-Winter-3-7V-USB-Rechargable-Battery-Sock/362802154986
I got with the batteries for 17 quid. Batteries are single cells claimed 2200mAh. Heat pad is only small, covering ball of the foot/toes, which I think is perfect. No controller in socks, ideal as I will stick one of mine in my wiring from jacket. The batteries have a controller giving 3 levels, highest has a good amount of heat.

I will be honest I dont have any problem with cold feet on the bike, these are mostly for at home/working in the shed on lathe. Its a cold house with a very cold floor, literally sucks the heat out of your toes and makes them numb, which is why I went for the batteries.

[PotatoHead202...]

I've gotta say that I held off for years over better gloves. Been riding since I was 16 (now 29) and finally succumbed. I got the new gerbing xrl and they're utterly, utterly fantastic. Can't fault mine at all.
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