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Ste
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 25 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://twitter.com/donaldtuskEPP/status/1220798948715175936

So many stupid people posting stupid comments. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 25 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And yet another pointless post pointing out all sorts of problems, offering no solutions from someone with zero credibility Sad

'e reckons 'es one o' they there ol' clarebouyants.
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Riejufixing
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 25 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
https://twitter.com/donaldtuskEPP/status/1220798948715175936

So many stupid people posting stupid comments. Rolling Eyes

I'd join the club, and post this: ╭∩╮(-_-)╭∩╮
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cdlxxvi
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's nice how in time research results come in.

Unicorn scam peddlers wrote:
It's all about the benefit to the Average Person. He must Brexit or he will be DOOMED like the FAILING!!!!!11111oneoneone Eurozone!


Enter reality: Mr. Average Person now essentially works >1w for free because of inflation.

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PostPosted: 12:56 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
More made up bollox from the right-wing troll Sad
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
We have never been the Euro area so that doesn't apply.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
I noticed Priti(awful) Patel rolling out the latest buzz-phraze "we're not going to be rule takers". Makes me wonder what rules her and Boris are thinking of making. Bye bye employee rights anyone?
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Riejufixing
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
I noticed Priti(awful) Patel rolling out the latest buzz-phraze "we're not going to be rule takers". Makes me wonder what rules her and Boris are thinking of making. Bye bye employee rights anyone?

It's not "the latest buzz-phraze" (sic) is it. It's been used by the (current) Labour leadership as well as by anyone else.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
I noticed Priti(awful) Patel rolling out the latest buzz-phraze "we're not going to be rule takers". Makes me wonder what rules her and Boris are thinking of making. Bye bye employee rights anyone?


You should be pleased if Boris is nasty to the workers. Maybe some of the northern ex Labour voters will come back to the red fold.

Anyway, why should we be beholden the the European courts? We are perfectly capable of making our own laws and did it without help from the EU up until we joined it.

As far as workers rights. We don't need the EU to tell us how to treat workers. They don't actually implement anything radical anyway. Have you heard of the minimum wage? That's a British implemented law, not a European rule. Italy doesn't even have one.

I lived through the dark days of Unions wagging the dog. The 3 day week. Strikes every day. National strikes and power cuts in winter. A box of candles was a necessity when I was growing up and I have no wish to go back there.
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cdlxxvi
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
We have never been the Euro area so that doesn't apply.


We had similar inflation in the year leading up to the referendum. After that the pound crashed and because of that we've been almost a grand out of pocket each year.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
cdlxxvi wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
We have never been the Euro area so that doesn't apply.


We had similar inflation in the year leading up to the referendum. After that the pound crashed and because of that we've been almost a grand out of pocket each year.


Really?

https://exchangeconversions.com/charts/GBP-EUR-chart-10-years.jpg

It hasn't changed much over 10 years according to this.

As has been said before, you can manipulate graphs to show what you want depending on scale ans start and finish dates but basically were are pretty well at the same level we were 10 years ago before Brexit was a glimmer in Farage's eye.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
https://twitter.com/donaldtuskEPP/status/1220798948715175936

So many stupid people posting stupid comments. Rolling Eyes


"Thank you. We know you do. We will make sure that we spread positive news about the EU and will counter the nationalistic agenda of the Mail Express and Telegraph to pave the way for rejoining.
Don't give up on us, and I hope to live to be at the great rejoining party"

Dance!

ponds available for finding the Borg's post on there.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
cdlxxvi wrote:
We had similar inflation in the year leading up to the referendum. After that the pound crashed and because of that we've been almost a grand out of pocket each year.


3 years of non-stop lies... why not try getting out more: beer, women and motorbikes does for most people round here.
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cdlxxvi
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
cdlxxvi wrote:

We had similar inflation in the year leading up to the referendum. After that the pound crashed and because of that we've been almost a grand out of pocket each year.


Really?

https://exchangeconversions.com/charts/GBP-EUR-chart-10-years.jpg

It hasn't changed much over 10 years according to this.


Firstly, it changed quite a bit. For the value of 1.25 an absolute change of 0.1 is 8%, which is a lot.

Secondly, you seem to argue that the return of GBPEUR to within a few percent of pre-referendum values means that the study cannot be right. This is incorrect, as the post-referendum slump caused a steep increase in inflation compared to Eurozone, which lingered on and hit our pockets.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
ponds available for finding the Borg's post on there.

Ah, so I wasn't the only one to notice. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:

"Don't give up on us, and I hope to live to be at the great rejoining party"


I doubt the average Remainer's fragile little mind will survive long enough Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
cdlxxvi wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
We have never been the Euro area so that doesn't apply.


We had similar inflation in the year leading up to the referendum. After that the pound crashed and because of that we've been almost a grand out of pocket each year.


Polarbear will like that, not so much bulk in his pocket, as he only likes to use cash, none of this highfalutin electronic wizardry to pay using cards and / or devices Laughing Laughing

But seriously, your posts are indeed pointless, we are leaving the eu on Friday that's all there is to it.

As for any implications, financial or otherwise, well, it's too late, the electorate no longer has any form of say in the matter, the government has too strong a majority for it to feel the need to listen to, and, act upon anything the electorate says or demands. Give it up, life's too short to be worrying over something you have no control over !!
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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the electorate no longer has any form of say in the matter, the government has too strong a majority for it to feel the need to listen to, and, act upon anything the electorate says or demands.

You keep talking as if there won't be an election to fight in five years. Do you really think this majority government is intent on opening the door for Labour? After years of stalemate we needed a strong government, and at last we're moving on. That's got to be a good thing for everyone, but the Government is still accountable. Thankfully, Boris is no Putin (or Von der Leyen Wink ).
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dellusional Remoaners...

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PostPosted: 20:56 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
linuxyeti wrote:
the electorate no longer has any form of say in the matter, the government has too strong a majority for it to feel the need to listen to, and, act upon anything the electorate says or demands.

You keep talking as if there won't be an election to fight in five years. Do you really think this majority government is intent on opening the door for Labour? After years of stalemate we needed a strong government, and at last we're moving on. That's got to be a good thing for everyone, but the Government is still accountable. Thankfully, Boris is no Putin (or Von der Leyen Wink ).


5 years will be too late down the line, all eu negotiations etc will all be done and dusted by then. Do you honestly think labour will be in a position to be a credible opposition in 5 years time? The current government has got 5 years to push through the constituancy boundary changes through, which will reduce the number of mp's, and, the boundary changes will make it even more difficult for the labour party to gain a majority, and, that's a good performing labour party, not the current shambles.

Boris may not be a Putin, however, unless he tries something catastrophic, he, and the government, will be able to get anything they want through parliament.
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That's a good point about boundary changes, but the Government is still subject to scrutiny and if they are seen to be rigging elections they'll pay. If Labour can't sort themselves out in 5 years, nor the Lib Dems, it's a sorry state of affairs but maybe Farage can step into the breach? Laughing The Press will play their part too, and then there's civil unrest. But you were getting at reductions in human rights and employer/employee relations. They would ultimately cost the Tories their power.
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Yes, it will be too late to do anything about Brexit but that personally is what I want.

Sod more of the last 3 years of trying to have negotiations with our hands tied by the remainer parliament and a weak government.

Whatever is negotiated now the conservatives and Boris will answer for it in 5 years. They have absolutely no excuse to get brow beaten into a crap deal which is what would happen if we still had a hung parliament.

No excuses.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
Yes, it will be too late to do anything about Brexit but that personally is what I want.

Sod more of the last 3 years of trying to have negotiations with our hands tied by the remainer parliament and a weak government.

Whatever is negotiated now the conservatives and Boris will answer for it in 5 years. They have absolutely no excuse to get brow beaten into a crap deal which is what would happen if we still had a hung parliament.

No excuses.


Not only is it too late for the electorate to influence any brexit negotiations, but, pretty much anything else the conservatives want to do, like it or not, the opposition are such a shambles, might be a whole generation before there's not a conservative, or conservative led government.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Remember the government and the party are separate things. If the former goes totally bat-shit crazy then the party could force them out. Maggie Thatcher being the prime example.

We do need an effective opposition though. That's what's missing.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 27 Jan 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
linuxyeti wrote:
The current government has got 5 years to push through the constituancy boundary changes through

These have been in the pipeline since the conservative/literal undemocrat government passed the Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011. It's about time it was done.
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