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PostPosted: 01:46 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: What does your kill switch do? Reply with quote

I have had umpteen bikes and never used them but only checked them.

My latest bikes kill switches always prevented engine turn over when using the start button.
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the earlier ones didn't?

First thing to check when the bike wouldn't start was whether you had accidentally knocked the kill switch off.

Can't imagine anything has changed on them since they were introduced.
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PostPosted: 02:49 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early 90s Hondas allow you to turn the strarter with the kill switch off.

Oh how we laughed!
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PostPosted: 03:16 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Early 90s Hondas allow you to turn the strarter with the kill switch off.

Oh how we laughed!


Come to think of it, my 90's 'Blade was like that - mind you, when you say 'kill switch off' you probably didn't mean 'off' as in 'sitting in a box with the fuel pump and a whole host of other unnecessary weight'. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have hired japanese bikes abroad that I have also owned in the UK and quite a few don't have a kill switch at all.
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PostPosted: 09:17 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Suzuki GT500 kill switch used to operate at the first hint of rain.

I'm not sure that was what Suzuki intended though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never use mine anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turns off everything except the trigger from the ignition to the heated grips relay....
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:50 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A kill switch just shorts the electrics going to the ignition coil so everything else'll work, just no spark. Isn't that how it works on all bikes?
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
A kill switch just shorts the electrics going to the ignition coil so everything else'll work, just no spark. Isn't that how it works on all bikes?


No, my 2004 Fazer 1000, Cbf 1000 (forgot year) and both Gsx 1400 bikes killed the start buttons and fuel pumps.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly discombooberates the Main Relay switch wire so that Hee-Haw power gets past the main relay.
It depends on how the OEM wants to wire it.

I have never had a phaph with a kill switch.

The Rule is not to use the kill switch and only use the ignition key to shut off the engine.

That rule is to prevent 'over-use' creating a weakness in the system.

Unless it's used to fcuk with folk. That is 100% not a maintenance issue.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
A kill switch just shorts the electrics going to the ignition coil so everything else'll work, just no spark. Isn't that how it works on all bikes?


My Viffer won't even turn if the kill switch is flicked.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
A kill switch just shorts the electrics going to the ignition coil so everything else'll work, just no spark. Isn't that how it works on all bikes?


My Viffer won't even turn if the kill switch is flicked.


Also turns off the lights and the dash on the strumpet.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
ThatDippyTwat wrote:

My Viffer won't even turn if the kill switch is flicked.


Also turns off the lights and the dash on the strumpet
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At least with that you are never going to get caught out if someone has flicked the kill switch on.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends

On AC CDI bikes like Easy X's and Blurredmans
they short power from the CDI source coils to ground
preventing or killing the sparks

Some bikes, they open and cut off DC power to the
ignition circuit and coils and that's all

Those are simplest functions
On other bikes and in theory they can do whatever they're designed to do
related to stopping and inhibiting the starting.

On my bike it's a modified form of an AC CDI switch to give a ground to a relay coil
where the NC contacts supply the ignition components.

depends see?
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the DT is so old-skool you don't so much "hot wire" it as just unplug the ignition cable Sad

Just checked the Rebel and the kill switch seems to operate the fuel pump (and I assume also the ignition coil) but everything else works, even the starter motor.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine won't crank when off at the kill switch but I want to bypass it for maintenance reasons - the bike isn't used every day and has a dry sump system. I want to be able to crank it without the engine starting so that I can be sure that oil is at all critical surfaces when it does fire up. Kinda like you do with large diesel engines!
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 21 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Required by law in Murika, probably same for EU.

CBR6 kills engine, same way as if you drop sidestand in gear.
Won't let starter turn, this is 99 carbs model.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 22 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back to the original question, I think the reason for the kill switch is that in an emergency, if the bike is crashed and on it's side, it might be a pain to get to the ignition switch to turn off the bike (my ignition switch is on the side of the bike, not the top, like most other bikes, which would be impossible to get to if it had been put on it's side) so it would be faster to hit the kill switch to kill the engine, than pick the bike up and turn it off. (if there is spilt petrol, time would be of the essence)

and.........

My friends reason is 'I usually drop the bike and the tip over switch turns it off' Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 22 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
Going back to the original question, I think the reason for the kill switch is that in an emergency, if the bike is crashed and on it's side, it might be a pain to get to the ignition switch to turn off the bike (my ignition switch is on the side of the bike, not the top, like most other bikes, which would be impossible to get to if it had been put on it's side) so it would be faster to hit the kill switch to kill the engine, than pick the bike up and turn it off. (if there is spilt petrol, time would be of the essence)

and.........

My friends reason is 'I usually drop the bike and the tip over switch turns it off' Thinking


Surely the reason for a kill switch (which isn't included in the original post) is covered when you do your CBT, which as a recent Mod 2 passee you would have covered in the not too distant past. Back in the 80's we just assumed it was for the pillion to flick when our superhuman filtering skills scared the shit out of them. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 22 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

WreckTangle wrote:
Going back to the original question, I think the reason for the kill switch is that in an emergency, if the bike is crashed and on it's side, it might be a pain to get to the ignition switch to turn off the bike (my ignition switch is on the side of the bike, not the top, like most other bikes, which would be impossible to get to if it had been put on it's side) so it would be faster to hit the kill switch to kill the engine, than pick the bike up and turn it off. (if there is spilt petrol, time would be of the essence)

and.........

My friends reason is 'I usually drop the bike and the tip over switch turns it off' Thinking


I think you misinterpreted the OP's question.

"What does your kill switch do?"

Your answer to, What is a kill switch for?

Jist sayin'.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 06 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking
I think mine does The Macarena.
Thinking
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 06 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Thinking
I think mine does The Macarena.
Thinking


Mine engages.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 08 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

it either kills the ignition or kills the ignition and starter in my experience if it doesn't kill the starter too you can look an absolute chump trying desperately to start a bike with it turning over fine but not firing...
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