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Only that, despite the lack of slack, some knob will think they can wrestle it over the handlebars even though simple logic would rule that out.
Is there enough of a gap to get the chain between the top and bottom yolks? (Probably not, judging from the picture.) Or maybe some other part of the frame to loop through. TBH, back wheel is adequate for most people. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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If it helps, I use the Abus 12KS/120 chain. It has a loop so you can almost double the usable length of the chain. This makes it easier to attach it to your bike at the most secure point while still being able to lock it to something else but without having to use something double the length (and weight). I highly recommend this chain. I haven't seen any other make that does loop chains but there must be SOME others out there that do them.
https://www.abus.com/us/Home-Security/Chains-and-Cables/Maximum-Security-Chain/12KS-loop ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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A ground anchor designed to be concreted into the ground is probably the best way with two huge chains through each wheel if you are at home of course.
Ultimately it all depends on how determined and well equipped the thief is It's the consequences that need to be changed these days. ____________________ Signature removed by popular demand...
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LOL even if they did wrap chains in tyre rubber and steel banding, there's always going to be a weak spot where you can't cover like the end of the chain or the padlock itself, that's where the thieves will target their cutters. Of course we all know you were joking and it was tongue in cheek ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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The padlock is what they'll cut through.
Either a battery grinder where you'll hear it for 30 seconds max or bolt crops in which you'll hear a loud pitched ping when they chop the lock, then they'll close the garage and come back after 30-60 minutes to walk the bike away.
If not, they'll take the whole anchor off of the wall.
Personally I wouldn't worry about at home security, the biggest threat is when you park the bike up in public. That's when they'll really have the balls to make noise and steal it in 30 seconds.
If they want it enough, they'll take you off of it.
Also, don't rely entirely on a disc lock alone when out and about, I see lots of bikes parked up with nothing more than a disc lock. I won't post on here, but all bike thief's know just how easy it is to remove one and what tool is required.
My bikes don't ever sit in public without me being around them and at home I have a 5.5 stone American Bulldog ready to hang off their arms. Do your research on the breed, they can cause some gruesome injuries if they get your arms. I wouldn't advise owning one if you can't train dogs, they're stubborn as mules to train as well.
It looks like you have the bike in a garage, so for extra security park a car up close against the garage door. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Boxing wrote: | I see lots of bikes parked up with nothing more than a disc lock. I won't post on here, but all bike thief's know just how easy it is to remove one and what tool is required. |
If they all know about it, isn't it worth telling riders who don't know about it, so that they can be aware and on their guard? |
OK, I will post here, but I doubt all bike thief's know. If you have a strong flat head screwdriver or crowbar most disc locks will snap straight in half within seconds of applying force. Again it depends on the lock and I don't use disc locks, but even some of the more beefy and expensive ones are vulnerable to this sort of method.
Another method they'll try is to get a strong leverage on it against the forks, often this results in a damaged brake disc even if unsuccessful.
Also a scaffold bar in the links of a chain and turn it constantly results in the chain snapping, especially the Oxford tat.
But as I said, your bike is more vulnerable outside than it is at home.
And the biggest threats to being stolen are the 125CC's. The bigger bikes are usually stolen to be rung into legitimate bikes. But the thieves will just sell them. The newer the bike the higher the price, most GSXR's <10 years old are popular around my area for being rung. Along with ZX6R's. Anything that's a bit aged, with frames readily available on eBay will sell quickly, and the professional thief's know this. |
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Oh I see. I know the sort of disk locks you mean, by chance I haven't got any, but you will have just educated some people I bet, including me! |
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Boxing wrote: | OK, I will post here, but I doubt all bike thief's know. If you have a strong flat head screwdriver or crowbar most disc locks will snap straight in half within seconds of applying force. Again it depends on the lock and I don't use disc locks, but even some of the more beefy and expensive ones are vulnerable to this sort of method.
Another method they'll try is to get a strong leverage on it against the forks, often this results in a damaged brake disc even if unsuccessful.
Also a scaffold bar in the links of a chain and turn it constantly results in the chain snapping, especially the Oxford tat.
But as I said, your bike is more vulnerable outside than it is at home.
And the biggest threats to being stolen are the 125CC's. The bigger bikes are usually stolen to be rung into legitimate bikes. But the thieves will just sell them. The newer the bike the higher the price, most GSXR's <10 years old are popular around my area for being rung. Along with ZX6R's. Anything that's a bit aged, with frames readily available on eBay will sell quickly, and the professional thief's know this. |
I use these on all my bikes etc. (we have a one key fits all locks system, had to be ordered in specially from Germany and wasn't cheap but really convenient as we have 3 bikes in the household plus a trailer so really convenient that any of us can lock/unlock any of the locks in the household with just one key that we each have, and more locks can be added matching the existing keys at any time just have to order it in from the supplier direct again using the code that came with the pack).
GRANITâ„¢ POWER XS 67/105HB50
https://mobil.abus.com/int/on-road/Locks/Brake-Disc-Locks/Brake-Disc-Locks-Motorbike/GRANIT-Power-XS-67-105HB50-yellow?type=adp
I was lead to believe these are super resilient and one of the best on the market, even resilient to the method you mentioned of using a crowbar to lever/twist it to break open. Is that not the case then? ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 356 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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