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Bit hard going but I didn't see any evidence in that article that they were white supremacists or is that just an assumption as they're white? Same goes for "Trump supporting" - not that I see the relevance.
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So cold, hard facts for some that may be unfamiliar with Georgia...
Open carry policy, i.e. you are entitled to show weapons on the street.
Citizens are allowed to make citizens' arrests.
"No back down" meaning you are not expected to flee or surrender to threats of violence.
Attempting to wrest a gun from its owner allows said owner to respond with deadly force.
Hardly worth mentioning that neither of the "good old boys" have any previous criminal convictions whereas the "victim" did.
But of course, MSM would burn journalists at the stake if they actually did any... I dunno... investigation instead of repeating the dogma of the twatterati 
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| Easy-X wrote: | So cold, hard facts for some that may be unfamiliar with Georgia...
Open carry policy, i.e. you are entitled to show weapons on the street.
Citizens are allowed to make citizens' arrests.
"No back down" meaning you are not expected to flee or surrender to threats of violence.
Attempting to wrest a gun from its owner allows said owner to respond with deadly force.
Hardly worth mentioning that neither of the "good old boys" have any previous criminal convictions whereas the "victim" did.
But of course, MSM would burn journalists at the stake if they actually did any... I dunno... investigation instead of repeating the dogma of the twatterati |
Those laws make no sense at all. They can theoretically make it impossible to commit murder. According to the above; If someone tries to attack you at gun point and you are unarmed you can stand your ground and not run away but if you try and fight back and take the gun from the person attacking you they are allowed to shoot you. 
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| Posted: 23:39 - 11 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Admitted I probably could have phrased that a little better. That being said, it's 'murica so it's not meant to make sense!
Anyhoo, the BBC have done their duty and elevated conjecture to cold, hard fact.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52623292
| Quote: | Mr Arbery was out for a jog in the city of Brunswick early in the afternoon on 23 February - something his father said he did often. |
Okay, so I'm not a legal brain but that sounds like hearsay and not prima facie evidence.
"It's a racist attack..." no evidence presented.
"They're white supremacists..." no evidence presented.
Surely if you're out in your pickup truck hunting black people you just shoot 'em and bury the body in the desert? If your intention is primarily harm then why get into a tussle?
Oh well, I suppose it's payback from all the lynchings from the slave days. Now black people can have their revenge and lynch random white people using Twitter and race baiting journalists instead of rope and a tree.
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| martin734 wrote: | | Easy-X wrote: | So cold, hard facts for some that may be unfamiliar with Georgia...
Open carry policy, i.e. you are entitled to show weapons on the street.
Citizens are allowed to make citizens' arrests.
"No back down" meaning you are not expected to flee or surrender to threats of violence.
Attempting to wrest a gun from its owner allows said owner to respond with deadly force.
Hardly worth mentioning that neither of the "good old boys" have any previous criminal convictions whereas the "victim" did.
But of course, MSM would burn journalists at the stake if they actually did any... I dunno... investigation instead of repeating the dogma of the twatterati |
Those laws make no sense at all. They can theoretically make it impossible to commit murder. According to the above; If someone tries to attack you at gun point and you are unarmed you can stand your ground and not run away but if you try and fight back and take the gun from the person attacking you they are allowed to shoot you. |
That's not how it works. Using a gun in a crime doesn't entitle you to any of those rights. Also people with serious criminal convictions are banned from owning guns in the US so in many robbery cases the offender isn't legally carrying anyway. |
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I don't think it's really much to do with race any more. That police killing thing was just the catalyst for something much bigger.
It's not a race riot as there are tons of not black people out there, and it's clearly pushed to something far more extreme, given the amount of looting going on. I saw a video of downtown Philadelphia yesterday and it looks like the opening scene to a new Fallout game. Carnage, looting, fire, incivility.
Clearly something far worse has happened, and these things don't happen for no reason. It's all good and well to sit back and pontificate over how "I would never do a thing like that if I were there", because we all know that's bullshit, we're all human and humans are weak. Something far deeper has caused this. Inequality, poor education, divisive politics, and yes even racism. It's a massive cauldron that has been waiting to boil over for a very long time. |
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| Lord Percy wrote: | I don't think it's really much to do with race any more. That police killing thing was just the catalyst for something much bigger.
It's not a race riot as there are tons of not black people out there, and it's clearly pushed to something far more extreme, given the amount of looting going on. I saw a video of downtown Philadelphia yesterday and it looks like the opening scene to a new Fallout game. Carnage, looting, fire, incivility.
Clearly something far worse has happened, and these things don't happen for no reason. It's all good and well to sit back and pontificate over how "I would never do a thing like that if I were there", because we all know that's bullshit, we're all human and humans are weak. Something far deeper has caused this. Inequality, poor education, divisive politics, and yes even racism. It's a massive cauldron that has been waiting to boil over for a very long time. |
I disagree with making excuses for the looting and beatings, especially when perpetrated by individuals that are from out of town.
Everyone knows right from wrong and is able to make that moral decision. I'm a strong believer in taking responsibility for your own actions. We've all made bad decisions in our lives, but you don't learn from them by blaming someone else.
Oh, and burning a homeless mans few possessions isn't progressing the cause, whatever that might be.
You talk of a massive cauldron that's been waiting to boil over, well it seems to me that it's actually been created up by various race baiters and the media's constant pushing of identity politics. They've pushed and pushed this agenda of white man bad.
I remember when Obama was elected, it felt like the US would finally be able to put the history of racism behind it, but then the politics of division actually intensified and apparently the US was more racist than ever, despite voting in a black president. Twice. |
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| BTTD wrote: |
I disagree with making excuses for the looting and beatings, especially when perpetrated by individuals that are from out of town.
Everyone knows right from wrong and is able to make that moral decision. I'm a strong believer in taking responsibility for your own actions. We've all made bad decisions in our lives, but you don't learn from them by blaming someone else.
Oh, and burning a homeless mans few possessions isn't progressing the cause, whatever that might be.
You talk of a massive cauldron that's been waiting to boil over, well it seems to me that it's actually been created up by various race baiters and the media's constant pushing of identity politics. They've pushed and pushed this agenda of white man bad.
I remember when Obama was elected, it felt like the US would finally be able to put the history of racism behind it, but then the politics of division actually intensified and apparently the US was more racist than ever, despite voting in a black president. Twice. |
Like I said, I don't think it's really anything to do with race now, because of everything you've just said. Plenty of white folk are out there, and I've seen the video of a homeless man having his belongings burned up. It's disgusting.
I'm not making excuses for those cunts, where I did I ever say that it was okay? I'm saying there's a long term and root cause to all this. It's not like riots happen every other day, is it. |
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The race-baiting media should be held accountable here in my opinion.
Every time a black person is killed they go into overdrive and use it to create bigger divisions in society, piling up fuel for the fire and now it doesn't even matter that the cops are sacked and will be charged with murder..
And in the minds of the BLM / Antifa crew nothing is ever enough to make up for the past. Screaming "Kill the white folks" is entirely acceptable to them - they can't even see the irony.
So here we go again, another spark sets off the tinder box, and now they're joined by Mexican La Raza types and hand-wringing white Instagram heroes smashing up their own city in 'honour' of the dead guy.
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| Rebel wrote: | At least we have a virtuous and uncorrupted press corps. to rely on for factual reportage. Oh, wait...
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...still waiting! seems to be working now.
Eeny, meeny, miny moat,
Catch a n*gga by the throat.
If he hollers press down more,
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A repeat of the post I put in BLM protests thread in Random Banter. It's more valid here...
Rightly or wrongly we have this view of American society as racist.
Rightly or wrongly we have this media fuelled view that cops in the US go out of their way to kill blacks.
Without supporting what the cops did there is this statement in a news article.
He moved to Minneapolis after being released from prison and was known as a "gentle giant" who was trying to turn his life around. He was in jail for armed robbery.
It's amazing how many (dead) criminals are 'lovely people who wouldn't hurt a fly'.
I can't see what else the authorities can do. Cop is going to be prosecuted for murder and will be found guilty whatever simply because they have to throw him to the wolves.
https://news.sky.com/story/who-was-george-floyd-the-gentle-giant-who-loved-his-hugs-11997206
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| Polarbear wrote: | A repeat of the post I put in BLM protests thread in Random Banter. It's more valid here...
Rightly or wrongly we have this view of American society as racist.
Rightly or wrongly we have this media fuelled view that cops in the US go out of their way to kill blacks.
Without supporting what the cops did there is this statement in a news article.
He moved to Minneapolis after being released from prison and was known as a "gentle giant" who was trying to turn his life around. He was in jail for armed robbery.
It's amazing how many (dead) criminals are 'lovely people who wouldn't hurt a fly'.
I can't see what else the authorities can do. Cop is going to be prosecuted for murder and will be found guilty whatever simply because they have to throw him to the wolves.
https://news.sky.com/story/who-was-george-floyd-the-gentle-giant-who-loved-his-hugs-11997206
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