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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh jeez, you're a deluded fool let loose on the internet. I suggest you debate the matter with mpd72, who is curiously absent.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rebel wrote:
Here's the link, no misquote.

https://tapnewswire.com/2020/05/covid-19-only-kills-people-who-were-flu-vaccinated/


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Fake news site much?
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Which only goes to show you can dress up anything to make it sound plausible but I have to say I do love a good conspiracy.

Well done. Thumbs Up Clive Cussler would be proud.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No narrative here of course, but the media don't like the drug that cures 80% of cases it seems.

https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/0a071ae2764a17aea71f6d22d9bb283478c5c9a582c41519f63115ef11606cd8.jpg

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PostPosted: 23:50 - 07 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's a nice representation of anti-vaxxers/conspiracy theorists. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 08 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The vast majority of vaccines are produced in eggs. This is why, when you go for your annual flu vaccination, the nurse or doctor will ask you "are you allergic to eggs?".


Does Saint Bill lay these eggs himself. I only want the good stuff.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
This lockdown is really getting to me.

Every time I see a nurse on a porno I stand up and clap before fapping Sad
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
As the pandemic starts to ease off in some parts of the world it is becoming possible to compare how different governments handled it.

Johnson wrote:
The only real comparison is going to be possible at the end of the epidemic when you look at total excess deaths.


Enter reality:
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The UK has registered 59,537 more deaths than usual since the week ending March 20, indicating that the virus has directly or indirectly killed 891 people per million.

At this stage of the pandemic, that is a higher rate of death than in any country for which high-quality data exist. The absolute number of excess deaths in the UK is also the highest in Europe
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the strongest link appears at this stage to be between the date of a country’s lockdown and the probable number of infections that already existed when restrictions were applied.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2Ff8c61bd0-a01d-11ea-a59e-29f0039e1e32-standard.png?fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=700



https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The UK has registered 59,537 more deaths than usual since the week ending March 20, indicating that the virus has directly or indirectly killed 891 people per million.

At this stage of the pandemic, that is a higher rate of death than in any country for which high-quality data exist. The absolute number of excess deaths in the UK is also the highest in Europe
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the strongest link appears at this stage to be between the date of a country’s lockdown and the probable number of infections that already existed when restrictions were applied.


And that is a massive problem for the UK.

As someone from the outside looking in on the UK's response, the only conclusion that I can come to is that the UK governments response has been, woefully, inadequate from the start!

For starters, compared to other countries, you're in "lock down lite"!
Other countries introduced a curfew, with huge fines for breaking it.
Other countries introduced a text service, you had to participate in, to get permission to leave your house, with huge fines for not complying.
Other countries limited the "exercise" loophole to a short distance from your residence, with huge fines for breaking it.
Other countries closed their borders very quickly, (3.8M people flew in to the UK in March, all untested and with no enforced, mandatory, quarantine on arrival).
Ten weeks after lock down "lite" and quarantine and testing for arrivals has still not been introduced.

What's the UK government's response? Stay at home and wash your hands, it beggars belief!

Then you have time and money being wasted on a contact tracing app, THAT BOAT SAILED, WEEKS AGO, FFS, you're too far down the line, it is, literally too little, too late, just like every other aspect of the governments handling of the situation!

Despite what that arse MPD would have you believe, I'm no raving socialist, but just take a long, hard, look at who you've got in charge.
Someone whose public image was that of a well meaning buffoon.
Guess what, turns out it wasn't PR, he is actually a useless buffoon, totally and utterly out of his depth and being manipulated by power hungry, un-elected, apparatchiks.

We got on a plane in early March, for a pre-planned trip, I thank my lucky stars that we got out, because I knew the Cyprus government would look after us way better than the UK government ever would.
We're down to zero or single figures in new cases per day, isolation may or may not be the right way to go, but I'm so glad I'm not in the UK right now!

Holiday destinations are preparing to open up again, the UK is not on the list of countries these destinations will allow visitors from, because the UK is now considered to be the sick man of Europe!

I have know idea what the solution is for the UK, whatever it is, it needs to find it fast, because at the moment the UK appears to be on a path to self destruction!
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
FT: "At this stage of the pandemic, that is a higher rate of death than in any country for which high-quality data exist"

So we'll see.
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Suntan Sid wrote:
For starters, compared to other countries, you're in "lock down lite"!

Other countries introduced a curfew, with huge fines for breaking it.
Other countries introduced a text service, you had to participate in, to get permission to leave your house, with huge fines for not complying.
Other countries limited the "exercise" loophole to a short distance from your residence, with huge fines for breaking it.
Other countries closed their borders very quickly, (3.8M people flew in to the UK in March, all untested and with no enforced, mandatory, quarantine on arrival).
Ten weeks after lock down "lite" and quarantine and testing for arrivals has still not been introduced.

What's the UK government's response? Stay at home and wash your hands, it beggars belief!

I agree with you on that However, have you *heard* the number of "special" people whingeing and moaning about even the very relaxed "lockdown" we have here?

We've even got them here in BCF, with one even admitting to breaking a whole lot of rules in other countries too!

Now they're moaning that we've had too many deaths, when they themselves as a group have gontributed to making the situation that bad!

I don't think the government's response beggars belief as much as the attitude of the population at large!
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are there any charts adjusted for population size? At glance it seems for all the idiocy of Trumperica as a percentage of population the UK is much worse off.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Are there any charts adjusted for population size? At glance it seems for all the idiocy of Trumperica as a percentage of population the UK is much worse off.

There are, but like with anything, the reported rates are the result of many factors.
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Riejufixing wrote:

I agree with you on that However, have you *heard* the number of "special" people whingeing and moaning about even the very relaxed "lockdown" we have here?

We've even got them here in BCF, with one even admitting to breaking a whole lot of rules in other countries too!

Now they're moaning that we've had too many deaths, when they themselves as a group have gontributed to making the situation that bad!

I don't think the government's response beggars belief as much as the attitude of the population at large!


Totally agree. I've heard people say 'Why didn't we do what South Korea did?' Those same people would have been frothing with indignation and screaming 'My Human Rights' if our government had even hinted on trying that route.

Don't quote Europe either. Spain and Italy (et al) are used to having an armed Police who have no compunction about beating people into a pulp so they aren't going to stand and argue with them.]

The only way we could have totally enforced a lockdown is put the army on the streets with marshal law and a suspension of trial by courts.
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I don't agree. I'm amazed how eager people are to tug the forelock at any opportunity. The idea that we are some sort of race of super libertarians is utter bolloks.
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I don't agree. I'm amazed how eager people are to tug the forelock at any opportunity.

What's that got to do withe situation?
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Ribenapigeon wrote:
I don't agree. I'm amazed how eager people are to tug the forelock at any opportunity. The idea that we are some sort of race of super libertarians is utter bolloks.


Sorry, but this wouldn't happen in a country where the police weren't scared of their own shadow....

A police officer was subjected to a "repulsive" attack when someone spat at him and ripped his face mask off.

Figures show there were a total of 198 assaults [Just in Thames Valley] on officers between March and April, an increase of 40 for the same period in 2019.

It's nothing to do with libertarians but a total disdain of the police and the rule of law because they can and do get away with it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-52831218
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Figures show there were a total of 198 assaults [Just in Thames Valley] on officers between March and April, an increase of 40 for the same period in 2019


Keep in mind if I prod you firmly and you take offence I just assaulted you. Also they invent it alot, I got done for assaulting a copper, I jumped from a window to escape the ones at my door, the woman in the garden saw me climbing out positioned herself intentionally next to my only landing spot, found out after she had claimed a fucking fortune in compo/sick leave/etc for me "landing on her", (slight side glance that wobbled her on her feet, she made zero effort to grab me). Apparently she could see me aiming myself at her and everything Rolling Eyes

GBH figures would be more meaningful at least that should all be proper violence.

Also why are the police no longer big, nasty bastards? If the average beat bobby looks like he collects peoples teeth for fun they would have less problems. I see kids patrolling round here that look like my wife could floor them with a backhander.
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Sorry, but this wouldn't happen in a country where the police weren't scared of their own shadow....

A police officer was subjected to a "repulsive" attack when someone spat at him and ripped his face mask off.

Figures show there were a total of 198 assaults [Just in Thames Valley] on officers between March and April, an increase of 40 for the same period in 2019.

It's nothing to do with libertarians but a total disdain of the police and the rule of law because they can and do get away with it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-52831218


They're just the usual suspects, Neds who've cottoned on to the latest way to wind up the plod. The majority of people like nothing more than to bend the knee at the first sign of authority. I'm frankly surprised we haven't become an outright dictatorship.

Up here in Sturgeonia it's looming on the horizon, for all the Scots like to style themselves as rebels they're as docile as any south American dictator coukd dream of, the plod are always referred to in hushed tones, "tha poliss". The Scots essentially like having someone to tell them what to do. Even better if that someone styles the self after a character from The Broons (f#ckin shite Scottish comic strip series).
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I see kids patrolling round here that look like my wife could floor them with a backhander.


Oh absolutely. However short arsed little weeds (and women) have the same right to be officious little cvnts the just like the big fellers.

Equality you see. Thumbs Up
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Difficult balance between liberalism and safety.

'Any society which would give up a little liberty, to gain a little security, will deserve neither and lose both'.

I can't remember who said it but it's on Civilization 4

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PostPosted: 09:13 - 03 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some reassuring news...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/exclusive-boris-johnson-takes-back-control-of-coronavirus-crisis-with-downing-street-shake-up/ar-BB14W3XQ?ocid=spartanntp
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Diggs wrote:
Some reassuring news...


From what I can read fuck all change. 2 new committees and another unelected advisor to go with the current ones.

Renaming the current circle and their meetings to CS and CO is not change Laughing I rename meetings at work when I spend the day doing shit all and get to 1600 thinking, "better look like I did something".
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