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Having access to the single market is different to being in the single market.
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Riejufixing wrote: |
How's that exactly, then? |
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. If you are not an eu member, you cannot be in the single market or customs union. |
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The UK left the eu on Jan 31st. It is not in the EUCU or the EUSM. However, until December 31stit retains full access.
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So you're confused because we are not in the eu, and are therefore not in the EUSM, but have full access? Is that it?
Edit: We have access by treaty. In our case, it's the "Withdrawal Agreement" treaty. Other countries have access by treaty too, but their access is by different treaties. Norway, for instance, uses the EEA Agreement, which entered into force on 1 January 1994. Switzerland has different arrangememnts. |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | Riejufixing wrote: | If you can come up with any documentation, UK government or eu, saying that we;re still in, present it here. |
Of course they call it "out". Semantics. Brexit isn't done yet. Real change happens in 2021. |
I think I know how Reijufixing will reply to that, and while we have this government that is standing up for the UK in the negotiations, I'm inclined to accept that we are as good as out, and that the semantics are rather in "we're not out yet". ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | I think I know how Reijufixing will reply to that, and while we have this government that is standing up for the UK in the negotiations, I'm inclined to accept that we are as good as out, and that the semantics are rather in "we're not out yet". |
Look at it another way. If we decided (yes, it's horrible to imagine) that we wanted to be in the eu, what would we have to do? The answer is that since we are now out, we'd have to re-apply to go in again, from square 1, which would be much worse than when we joined the EEC all those years ago (the eu has only existed since '93, and we sort of joined it by default at that time). The law - the eu's A.50 and our own European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Act 2020 has run its course, and can't be undone, the joining action would have to be redone, with all that would entail.
Yes, there's stuff yet to be decided, but that's only to do with whether or not we get a trading agreement, and if so, what. We're actually in a temporary trading ageement now, called the transition period, in which we pay for general access to the EUSM, but it will run out at the end of the year. |
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Yes, we're in broad agreement. My concerns were back when we had a government that seemed ready to lie down to every demand of the EU, but those days appear to be, thankfully, over. Back then, my worry was that being out, technically or otherwise, wouldn't have meant much. I'm feeling much more positive now ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Easy-X wrote: | cdlxxvi wrote: | Since you're in IT, I would have you add value - working on a project that outputs something usable rather than servicing an entirely pointless and completely made up bureaucracy. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 301 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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