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Dovi....the man ain't no Pedrosa |
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Rossi...everyday all day. |
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Fast Fabio...His time is now. |
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Mir..Go team Suzuki! |
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Maverick...It's for the taking. |
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Franco...The nice guys do win. |
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Miller...To see his win celebration. |
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Takaaki....Stealthy Tough Fast Winner! |
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KTM...Pol or Brad |
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Yamaha and Ducati shat engines Id be interested to know Quatararos engine usage.
Vinales and rossi only on the podium due to injuries and two engines going bang. Usually they are no better than 8th. |
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That's why the team manager wasn't running down pitlane with his pants on his head...or whatever he said he'd do.
Just watched the moto3 That was brilliant...the suspense builds and builds...1 of any 13 could still win right upto the last 6 laps...then a smaller group, all the time overtakes are balletic and I didn't care who was doing them as they were just lovely to watch.
Moto2 is usually pedestrian by comparison, but I've not watched that.
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Howling Terror wrote: | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EehZKRtXsAAtxL1?format=png&name=large
I know what you mean MarJay. Could have a different champion this year...Imagine if Dovi pulls his finger out and takes the championship only to be dropped by Ducati or Fabio wins and leaves his bike to VR for next year.
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I wonder how much pressure Dorna put on to the doctors in their employ to declare one of their cash cows fit.
I heard that Marquez, Crutchlow and the other rider that was injured passed medical tests and were allowed to ride. As I understand it, they all broke bones and all had some sort of auxiliary fixing on one bone or another. You have to ask yourself, how good are these tests? If Marquez can BEND a titanium plate! I had a titanium plate... it was tiny but it was 3mm thick and has a C shaped cross section. Bending it... It's not a thing without a ten ton press!
Also the thing about him having no pain... I'm calling bullshit on that. The only completely effective painkillers remove all feeling from the affected area, like Novocain and that kind of thing. You can't ride a bike with no feeling, so it's not an epidural or a powerful local which leaves opiates... Any doctor which allows a rider to ride on opiates would be struck off... so what have they got them on if Marquez says he's not in pain? When I broke my wrist I was in CONSTANT pain for a long time, and then in pain whenever I put any pressure on my wrist. That was the case for at least a month, and then I was able to use crutches and so on but the slightest jolt, the slightest knock, putting on a glove, using a game controller... all these things sent ripples of pain up my arm. I can't imagine what a fractured humerus must feel like.
I do question the objectivity of the MotGP medical team on this... ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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I don't know with some of these riders. Was it Mick Doohan I read about who was with a doctor who was putting pressure on a broken bone and told him if he'd done that with anyone else they'd have flipped out in pain? Apparently Doohan didn't react at all. Another time he was going to be given morphine for something where it was commonly used and he turned it down for aspirin, or something equally mild, and the doctors were amazed that this was all he seemed to need.
And I don't think it's always (if at all) down to race organisers putting any pressure on riders to get out there. I think all the pressure comes from the riders themselves. It is astounding how focussed these guys are on achieving their goals, which is to win at almost any cost.
Have a read of the story of (again) Mick Doohan after his leg was smashed up; it's pretty incredible how focussed he remained through everything:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/motogps-greatest-comeback
And he isn't the only one with that kind of determination.
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MarJay wrote: | Also the thing about him having no pain... I'm calling bullshit on that. The only completely effective painkillers remove all feeling from the affected area, like Novocain and that kind of thing. You can't ride a bike with no feeling, so it's not an epidural or a powerful local which leaves opiates... Any doctor which allows a rider to ride on opiates would be struck off... so what have they got them on if Marquez says he's not in pain? |
I understand that one technique involves a LOT of injections into the affected area, and that doesn't leave the recipient fuzzy-headed or otherwise compromised - a procedure that is said to be pretty damn painful in its own right. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | I don't know with some of these riders. Was it Mick Doohan I read about who was with a doctor who was putting pressure on a broken bone and told him if he'd done that with anyone else they'd have flipped out in pain? Apparently Doohan didn't react at all. Another time he was going to be given morphine for something where it was commonly used and he turned it down for aspirin, or something equally mild, and the doctors were amazed that this was all he seemed to need.
And I don't think it's always (if at all) down to race organisers putting any pressure on riders to get out there. I think all the pressure comes from the riders themselves. It is astounding how focussed these guys are on achieving their goals, which is to win at almost any cost.
Have a read of the story of (again) Mick Doohan after his leg was smashed up; it's pretty incredible how focussed he remained through everything:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/motogps-greatest-comeback
And he isn't the only one with that kind of determination.
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I see that, but my assertion is that the issue is fitness to ride, not how someone handles pain in a hospital setting. As I recall, Mick Doohan came back to race very soon after his big crash, but was still out of the game for a couple of months. When he did race, he was off the pace and not fully focussed for a couple of rounds.
You can't come back after a week and be on the pace. IMO, you can't come back after a week and be *safe* to ride at race pace. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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It is probably a question of needing some regulation of what kind of injuries a rider can or can't be allowed to ride with. If they can physically do it, they'll do it, where nobody is saying no. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I only vaguely follow MotoGP but I can still picture when the spinning front wheel clipped Márquez's arm
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Rins is also off the pace, as is Crutchlow. |
I'm not quite sure you get it. For most of us, some of these injuries would preclude being able to ride at all. Off the pace? Still faster than most of us could be when 100% fit. On Doohan's return from injury, he achieved something like 12th place in his first race. He was far from healed. 12th place in the premier class in the world, the very apex of motorcycle racing, against the very best the racing world has to offer. 12th place is a points position. Any points you can get advances your hopes in the championship. That's the focus you need to be the world's best. If you're fighting in that league, you'll convince yourself you can do it, until you physically can't. You can't expect these riders to back off and say, well, I'm not really up to it, while they can still ride a bike. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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When you can go and get the lap times some of these riders get despite such injuries, then tell me they're not anything special. In fact, tell me they're nothing special when 100% fit. You and I have no hope of being in that top class they're riding in. That alone makes them special. Exceptional. Can you save the kind of near-offs that MM can? Can you imagine how sensitive you have to be to what the bike is doing to do that? How quick your reactions have to be? Can you even approach his lap times, even if given his bike and perfect conditions? And it's as much about their psychology as it is their technical skills.
I too have had more than my fair share of broken bones and other injuries. Tell me, have you ever found yourself so focussed on something you are doing that you stopped noticing pain? It's one of the tricks I use to this day when I don't want to be stuffing myself with painkillers. I wouldn't say I've got it down to a fine art, but I think it is an ability you can develop if you work at it enough. Most of us have too many other distractions to really get good at it, but if you have one overriding focus, I could see how many people could get quite good at it.
I'm not talking about whether they should, or whether someone needs to step in and say no. I'm talking about a set of people that can achieve what most can't. The fact that they're contending in a world championship in itself tells you they're not the average kind of people. You can't just take anyone off the street and get them to that level. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | UncleBFester wrote: |
I wouldn't even try and bash one out with a plate in my arm but then i'm a massive wuss.
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