Brake seal suppliers

[kramdra]

I could use a list of quality brake seal suppliers. Originals are extremely expensive, £150 for the set. I have found pattern oil seals ok, it is the dust seals that are rubbish quality and fall apart. Originals survived 18 years and many rebuilds cleaned and reused with no damage.

The caliper joint seals I recieved today were rubbish, appear to be cut from sheet, too thin and wrong size, they are being returned. My original oil seals are reusuable, but Id prefer to replace the whole set.

There are two extremely cheap sellers on ebay, 7 quid and 9 quid per calliper, which I will avoid.

Wemoto sell their own brand TRK, £32.

Powerhouse on ebay sell BrakeMasters www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR600-F4-front-brake-caliper-seal-rebuild-repair-kit-2002-2003-2004/162902226111

Huntersmotorcycles /m&p appear to sell an AllBalls kit. Ive had bad experience with all balls fork seals and wheel bearing dust seals, so I will avoid.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR600-F-Front-Brake-Caliper-Piston-Seals-Repair-Kit-x-2-2001-to-2007/192402067745

BikeBreaksUk www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR600-F4-X-Y-1-2-3-front-brake-caliper-seal-kit-1999-2000-2001-2002-2003/223952210404
Ive previously used this kit, the dust seals fell apart after a year of use when the pistons were pumped out. Not good.

Any others? What does bcf recommend? I will be buying two sets/4 calipers so I have the spares ready to go on next year.

[Fisty]

I've used PowerHouse several times. They have been fine.
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[steve the grease]

There are some utterly shit rubber products available online , and I suspect in shops. I had some fork gaiters for a bike I was doing up which perished away before I even finished doing the bike up! I know nothing of rubber production , but I've heard of extenders and other chemicals added to give the rubber certain qualities, these are certainly lacking in some items sold on a popular auction site. I eventually bought some 'ariete'? fork leg rubbers 3 times the price but made in Europe. fantastic.


While we are at it ... Scam ad's on Fuckbase for a company called 'warmday' , stainless cable ties yes , but not a scheap as plastic ones.... 1.5 stars on trustpilot.
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[kramdra]

I ignored Fisty's post as he is a massive dick, likely chosing the most expensive from the list without ever using them.

Wemoto ignored my request to list my bike seals on ebay, tho they have others. Their parts are not often great quality.

So I did go with the cheapest. With a multi-buy discount for other items it works out 5 quid per caliper. I am impressed. The dust seals all good (which are what I needed). One oil seal has a defect on the ID, and Ive asked for a replacement. I expect to buy more from them. At that price they can be single use.

Lump on ID:
https://i.postimg.cc/RVgKDxfH/IMG-20200806-171219.jpg

[Nobby the Bastard]

Ffs seals are always single use. How often are you stripping your calipers to feel that you need to buy seals regularly?

In the 4 years Ive had my triumph I've only replaced seals on 2 pistons on one side 9f one calliper.
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[kramdra]

No seals are not. If there is no visible damage they can be cleaned with brake fluid and reused, no solvents! It does take some time.

I strip calipers every time that the pistons are pushed back in for new pads - else the seals will get torn.

My original seals had been reused many, many times. I got spare calipers to minimise downtime, to have them ready in advance. Needed new seals due to previous owners abuse. After one winter, the pattern dust seal lips were shit.

Unfortunatley when I last stripped them, I cleaned the original seals, boxed them up ready to fit but they have been lost in the shed.

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[Nobby the Bastard]

Your fucking nuts.....
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Are you seriously suggesting it's considered normal to pull the pistons out and then bleed the brakes every time you replace the pads?

Everyone I know just cleans the worst off the pistons in situ and then just pushes them back in.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

So now you are reduced to inappropriate karma?

You do know how that game goes so badly, dont you?
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[kramdra]

It is not inappropriate, you are being abusive.

Cleaning pistons in situ leaves plenty of dirt to be pushed back behind the seals. Each time the piston moves, it will abrade. I like cleanlyness in my brakes. I dont expect others to do it, but I consider it worthwhile.

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Fisty]

[wr6133]

I rebuilt my 6 pots with a powerhouse set in 2018, longest the shit things have gone between rebuilds so I'd rate them and will use them again.

[Ste]

[kramdra]

Stripping and cleaning occasionally gives better brake feel, smoother bite, less pressure required. With my high milage, pads last about 2 years, for a normal bike that might be 4-6 years between pads. My last rear pads lasted 6 years. It is reallly not much time or extra effort.

When I got the bike at 28k miles the calipers had somehow been through many pads and been pushed in a lot. They were rubbish, feeling either off or fully on, nothing between. Occasional servicing will prevent that.

Anyway, I have no problem doing it. I have found a decent, cheap supplier of brake seals that are good. They have sent out a new seal for the damaged one, I will order a spare set for the other calipers.

I recommend them. Buy a spare set
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Front-Brake-Caliper-Seals-Set-Honda-CBR-600-FX-F3-99-04/192795397871

[Nobby the Bastard]

It's all in your head. Because you a mental. It has no effect at all when using the brake.
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[Fisty]

[kramdra]

Having siezed up calipers is all in my head? Right. Feel free to continue being a nob.

[Ste]

The reason the calipers benefit from being taken apart when you change the pads is because they've been taken apart and put back together without new seals.

It shouldn't be necessary to be taking them apart for pushing the pistons back in.

If you stop taking them apart and reusing the seals then you won't have any need to take them apart when changing the pads every couple of years to get better brake feel, smoother bite, less pressure required.

There's no damage on the pistons?

[Nobby the Bastard]

I've just replaced seals in on side of one of my calipers because they were slightly sticky and so wear was a little uneven. Nothing has shown up on the rolling road for the annual mot.

It has made no difference to the feel. Aside from the obvious new pads need bedding in. That took about 2 miles of gently caressing the brake whilst riding it.i bet that's the improvement you are feeling.

Thats the second set of pads in 30k usage that I've done. Only a mentalist rebuilds the calipers when replacing pads unless the calliper is seized or starting to seize.
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[kramdra]

How about Tokico 6 pots then, famous for siezing and spitting the dust seal down the side of the piston. I have seen the that happen when pistons are repeatedly pushed in. And years of corrosion is nit removed. Yes one, possibly two sets of pads but that is pushing your luck with a normal uncoated caliper which will corrode in the grooves.