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PostPosted: 21:56 - 13 Aug 2020    Post subject: Epic Games vs. Apple Reply with quote

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53773715

tl;dr Apple takes 30% of everything in their app store. No one likes this, no one's ever liked it and finally someone has the nadgers and, more importantly, the money to tell Apple where to go.

Lawyers across the land are whooping for joy as this may turn out bigger than Apple vs. Samsung or Oracle vs. Google.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 13 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think 30% is bad? Clips4sale take a whopping 40% and only pay out once a month meaning you are waiting for your money for ages. Yoogirls can rob a pocket drilling 65% in some cases!

30% seems fair to me.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
You think 30% is bad? Clips4sale take a whopping 40% and only pay out once a month meaning you are waiting for your money for ages. Yoogirls can rob a pocket drilling 65% in some cases!

30% seems fair to me.


Huh? Comparing apples to, err... oranges Very Happy What do your dodgy pr0n sites have to do with app stores? Thinking

If you're on an Android phone you could have your app in the Play Store and pay 30% just the same as on the App Store. However, you have the opportunity to handle your own in-app purchasing if you like or you could distribute through an alternative app store, e.g. Samsung Galaxy Store.

No such alternatives are available for iPhones.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
dodgy pr0n sites

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"This website is for sexy and fetish pictures & videos - NOT FOR PORN."

They also have a strangely specific warning that says they do not allow "crushing of animals of all kinds".
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction: Google also want a cut of in-app purchases Sad I got that wrong:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/epic_games_apple/
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Correction: Google also want a cut of in-app purchases Sad I got that wrong:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/epic_games_apple/


BUT, Google do allow other form of in-app payment, outside of the Play Store, for which they do not take a cut

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"Google's Android system also uses Google's payment system for app store purchases, from which Google takes a cut - but Android allows developers to point users to other payment options."

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PostPosted: 12:31 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpsmith79 wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Correction: Google also want a cut of in-app purchases Sad I got that wrong:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/epic_games_apple/


BUT, Google do allow other form of in-app payment, outside of the Play Store, for which they do not take a cut

Quote:
"Google's Android system also uses Google's payment system for app store purchases, from which Google takes a cut - but Android allows developers to point users to other payment options."


Fortnite-maker Epic Games is taking legal action against Google after being banned from the Google Play app store, hours after doing the same with Apple.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53777379

Banned on google as well.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spotify and a number of others tried the same thing as well previously only their argument was for 10 quid a month, Apple are taking 30% of that, whereas for their own Apple Music, they can charge the same price and keep all of it.

Totally agree that 30% is a piss-take, especially when they don't allow installs from other sources, or even links in the app to the website to purchase a subscription outside of the app itself.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

We found 0 Clips for "crushing of animals of all kinds"

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PostPosted: 20:28 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epic seem well prepared, love the 1984 Apple ad parody Smile

For some reason I'm also reminded of the old film "Rollerball" where the evil corporation is all fine with their star player, Jonathan E, right up until his popularity eclipses his employers. Cue merciless takedown.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 14 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Epic seem well prepared, love the 1984 Apple ad parody Smile

For some reason I'm also reminded of the old film "Rollerball" where the evil corporation is all fine with their star player, Jonathan E, right up until his popularity eclipses his employers. Cue merciless takedown.


Well said, thats how it is.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 24 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microsoft are wading in on this now:

https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/24/microsoft_sides_with_epic_over/

I think we're getting into the real meat of it. It's not so much about Apple's 30% cut but a clash of monopolies: Apple have their walled garden and Epic have Unreal Engine.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 25 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flipping eck, I don't know who I despise more Apple or Microsoft.
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