24-year-old newbie - bike options?

[Freddyfruitba...]

As somebody who passed their one-and-only bike test back in the olden days, when all you had to do to earn the keys to a superbike was to ride a 250cc machine twice round the block, I've always been a bit confused by the plethora of regs which has come in since then. Not that I've been particularly interested, until now that is, because my son's decided he wants to be a biker.

Am I right in thinking that a 24-year-old newbie biker can take their CBT, then if they want, go straight to DAS and do a few days' supervised training on a 500cc machine, come away with an 'A' licence and immediately buy an 'A' bike which they can then take out for their first-ever unsupervised ride?

Not that I think he necessarily wants to do that, but I'm just trying to get my head around it...
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[martin734]

A 24 year old can go straight for their A licence and ride any motorcycle unrestricted. If he goes for A2 he will be restricted to 47bhp until he takes his A category test.
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https://www.gov.uk/ride-motorcycle-moped/bike-categories-ages-and-licence-requirements

[Freddyfruitba...]

[NJD]

His age qualifies him for the "Category A" license. Once he's got that he can buy whatever he wants. Better to be restricted by choice than by license.

A training will probably be done on a 650 (Suzuki Gladius etc), but given the inexperience they'll probably use the C.B.T as a basis and then go from there. Not having experience on the road first will probably cost him, but who knows if that cost is less than what it would cost in fuel, gear, insurance, tax etc to reduce days of training. In a way having no experience will be better for the school since what they tell him will be able he'll ever know, and time wont be spent removing bad habits.

Probably best to get it across while doing the C.B.T that the intent is there to go for a full license, and that at the end of it he'd like to know how many days worth of training he'd need to be test ready.

I'd budget for four full days of riding as a basis, with tests added on. You could probably teach him the Mod 1 basics at a local supermarket car park or alike with a set of cones and tape to help him along.

EDIT: You could do the C.B.T with a school, and then ferry him to the test centre on your bike and let him use that... depends what you're comfortable with. Letting him do the tests on your bike wouldn't teach him much, though, and I doubt someone brand new would get through Module 2 without at least a day or two of full training.

Depends how fast he takes to it, or doesn't.
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[grr666]

Depending on the school you can also do the CBT on a 'big' bike. But that said I came back to bikes after spending
a lot of time riding (illegally) when I was a youngster, so was no beginner. Thought I'd best just get on with it
and get my licence properly so booked a DAS course. I went through it in this order. Theory> CBT(on a 600 Fazer)> Mod1> Mod 2.
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[Freddyfruitba...]

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Looks in good nick. I'm doubtful of the chain because, although it doesnt look slack, theres no signs of oil on the rear sprocket.
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[Freddyfruitba...]

Thanks a lot for the advice, all: really appreciated
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