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wr6133
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:

Yeah, I didn't gain any glory by joining the armed services - I want a refund! Laughing


I don't think fucked shins, knackered backs and destroyed hearing can be refunded Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want a refund on my youth. Then I can seek glory by climbing Everest, or going to Mars, or...something. Maybe become a billionaire. Yeah, that's it, by this time next year, if we had our youth back we'd be...

Ok, probably not Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

You probably wouldn't get it on the NHS even pre-covid. If you don't answer the 'red' screening questions in the affirmative you don't get NHS counselling. Red ones are such as have you ever wanted to harm yourself/commit suicide/harm others etc. You wouldn't want to be answering those kind of questions with yes unless it were true just to get a referral. Well, I wouldn't anyway.

You could of course pay to get PTSD counselling privately if you have £100+/hr to spare.


After I left the military I had some mental health problems surrounding stress which bought on a touch of depression and anxiety. I was on the very cusp of doing something stupid...like driving my work car off the jetty into the River Thames.

I didn't want to waste the Dr's time with 'I don't really feel very happy' but eventually I went. They are just so busy, I got put onto medication, eventually got a phone call from a counsellor and asked the usual questions. They asked me about if I was ex military and been deployed and I said yes, I explained that the stress was causing me to have my old nightmares back about rocket attacks on my family.

There were really zero fucks given by the woman on the phone, she said that it was normal and it was just my brains way of processing what happened. Apart from some massive group CBT lectures, I didn't hear from them again. I tried again recently and just got directed to an online portal to do CBT again.

It's like they are not willing to admit there is a problem with PTSD and the NHS just can't deal with thousands of squaddies who went through tours and all have differing levels of mental trauma.

They talk a good game though.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
..for my age I'd have most likely been posted in Northern Ireland and my parents were very firm that no glory was to be found there.


Good decision, you'd be on the wrong side of political correctness/SJW's by now. If you'd done your job properly you'd be getting sued now Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eight weeks in Bosnia (pretty much daily contact), zero PTSD. Fifteen months in a Japanese concentration camp, ten of which in solitary (they called it a remand prison, bless 'em), yeah, I had that shit. Funnily enough the DMT (that was taken for shits and giggles, not therapy) was both the most transcendental and horrifying experience (three major trips in one hour, first two to paradise, third to the edge of the abyss), one that really did trigger the underlying PTSD in all its glory (for around two fucking years until I finally lost my rag with it and blew it out with incandescent rage).

I think genius-level IQ (as an indicator of something/whatever more meaningful) might be a help. And an INTJ personality. Mr. Green The average squaddie doesn't have the intellectual tools unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 22 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Funnily enough the DMT (that was taken for shits and giggles, not therapy) was both the most transcendental and horrifying experience (three major trips in one hour, first two to paradise, third to the edge of the abyss), one that really did trigger the underlying PTSD in all its glory (for around two fucking years until I finally lost my rag with it and blew it out with incandescent rage).


Yeah, I don't think it's about just cramming any old thing down your throat for a hoot - hang on, what's that about IQ? Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 23 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
stuff about wanking and poo smells


Shocked

That is worthy of being in my "smelltrack to your life" thread.

Hilarious.
Impossibly tragic ... but hilarious.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 23 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
As a counterpoint, and admittedly without any personal experience, I wonder if having a regular counselling appointment to dwell on the matter would be helpful in terms of "moving on."

I don't think I made the point I was trying to make. I was suggesting that early counselling might make things worse. I should have said, "unhelpful in terms of moving on."
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 23 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really am extremely grateful to you guys for this input.

Aside from the personal aspect of it, seeing how you are coping with what you've experienced, its given me the opportunity to review what I've been told (not much) and to sift through what might be psychosis, madness, or just lies. And what might genuinely be someone struggling to get through to the happier end of a depressive episode.

What I'm finding really disturbing is the apparent ease (if you can call it that) with which suicide is discussed Crying or Very sad both here and with the conversations I have had recently. The factualness of suicide as a likely outcome, its frightening. At the moment I am not especially emotionally invested, but I can see how if you were married to or very close friends with someone going through this, or other aspects of PTSD, then it must be very distressing. I already find myself concerned at the amount of times that the "two gun-fingers under the throat" gesture is used to denote "I've had enough and it may well go this way".

Thank you.
For everything, I mean for not only entering that career (for "queen and country" whatever _... and really, I have to wonder how long that level of patriotism lasts once those sort of experiences have been had!

... but also for the thought and bravery that adding your input may have taken for you have given responses on this post.

I'm really fucking humbled.

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PostPosted: 08:23 - 01 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how stuff affects you differently once you have a personal input regarding a subject, innit.

Hmmm.
Thinking
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 01 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

TLDRA

I would suggest Shell-Shock (PTSD) is similar to a mental breakdown.
One worse than the other depending on how it affects one's existence.
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