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doggone
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Flint fragments Reply with quote

Picked up these this year, just laid on the fields - top left is jet though.

Flint doesn't occur locally here so any you find was carried almost certainly by man.
They could just be waste from making a more impressive tool, but they have sharp edges and can still function like a penknife.
Two especially do sit very nicely under your index finger for cutting or scraping.


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PostPosted: 10:41 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a Time Team episode where Phil Harding did some flint napping. It was quite amazing how sharp the flint blades were.

I wouldn't have a clue if those were tools or off cuts but an interesting find. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks awfy like the stuff that I used to top up my driveway chips. Razz

Chert.

I found several lumps when I was working in N. Africa but that was Petrified Wood.
Where the chert/flint seeps into buried vegetable remains and is then hardened into rock.
It's a very fine grain so micro details are retained.
But the wood part of petrified wood no longer exists in petrified wood.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like chert to me. It's still workable for tools though and being microcrystalline silica will take a demon edge. Flint is a specific type of chert associated with cretaceous chalk deposits.

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Not necessarily brought there by man by the way. Glaciers transport rocks huge distances. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
That looks like chert to me. It's still workable for tools though and being microcrystalline silica will take a demon edge. Flint is a specific type of chert associated with cretaceous chalk deposits.

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Not necessarily brought there by man by the way. Glaciers transport rocks huge distances. Thumbs Up

The area was glaciated probably from Scotland or Norway, would there be a source in the North Pennines though.
(Inland from Whitby)
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flint and chart are the same mineral. The only difference is flint is found in nodules, chert in veins.

Flint you can dig up, chert is just a byproduct of quarrying in limestone.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to do a bit of knapping when I was a teenager. It's a lot of fun, but very frustrating when something you've been working on for 30 minutes snaps in half.

This is about the best I did. Middle one is obsidian, but I cant remember what the other were. There's no knappable stone in my area so I ran out pretty quick.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Flint and chart are the same mineral. The only difference is flint is found in nodules, chert in veins.

Flint you can dig up, chert is just a byproduct of quarrying in limestone.


Yep, they're both microcrystalline SiO2 flint is associated with chalk though. Flint and some cherts are biological in origin other cherts are associated with hydrothermal systems - the Rhynie chert is a good example of the latter. Smile

It's distinguished from chalcedony by having a notable conchoidal fracture.

The saying is that all flints are cherts, but not all cherts are flints. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 12 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Islander wrote:
That looks like chert to me. It's still workable for tools though and being microcrystalline silica will take a demon edge. Flint is a specific type of chert associated with cretaceous chalk deposits.

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Not necessarily brought there by man by the way. Glaciers transport rocks huge distances. Thumbs Up

The area was glaciated probably from Scotland or Norway, would there be a source in the North Pennines though.
(Inland from Whitby)


I find cherts (and the occasional flint nodule) here on Orkney so there must have been a source from glaciation - no idea where though. The local geology is Devonian lacustrine sandstone sequences often following milankovitch cycles.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 13 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks exactly like the stuff on the path in my back garden.
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