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I think most companies would take it on the grounds of it falling into vintage , another couple of years the moped can be classified as "Historic" under DVLA rules .
I have a moped which is on the road and it predates the classification of Moped, originally the machine was in a class described as "Bicycle", its a 1950's Trojan Mini motor power pack strapped to the back of a standard pushbike with rod brakes, no MOT , no tax ,just insured.
So basicly anything that has been on the road in the past is still allowed to go back on the road.
My insurer said i am limited to 3k miles a year on it , i said, really how do i quantify that ?, it's has not got a speedo! ____________________ Always learning, everyday is a school day
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Posted: 08:12 - 09 Oct 2020 Post subject: |
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Not just insurence old Pre restricted mopeds now need an a 1 licence no longer for 16 year old ! ____________________ Dave
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Just for those interested to follow me down this particular rabbit hole, this is part of what I found online:
Quote: | 2013 - January - 3rd European Driving Licence Directive (3DLD).... A catergory AM is added to licences, which allows people to ride up to 28mph on a 49cc moped. Confusingly, catergory P, allowing people to ride up to 30mph on a 49cc moped is retained. The difference being that those with only a provisonal licence get only AM, whereas full car licence holders get both. In practice all mopeds manufactured for the EU since 2003 are restricted to 28mph. Even so - how complicated? |
As I said at the outset, I'm not too bothered about the detail of the law (happy to obey the spirit of a 30mph-restricted ped), just whether we might fall foul of insurance. So far, insurance companies are responding as if they're not even aware of any difference, seeming to only care that it's 50cc. So I doubt if there would be any problem getting a full quote, or even in the event of a claim. But they do say the rider needs the "appropriate licence", which to be completely pedantic they do not have (bike is restricted to 2mph / 5kmh too fast! )
As an aside, following another comment below, if the bike turns out to be 1980 (going through the dating & V55/5 process) and I change it's tax class to Historic, could a 16yo still ride it? It's still 49cc and restricted, but is it still a moped? No need to answer this one, just an illustration that as legislation becomes ever-more complicated, grey areas abound! |
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Weather the licence is approperate is down to how it is registered wrong class equles not appropert licence
Probibly no issue untill accedent then insurence is invalid
They pay 3rd party and may sue rider for costs issue is next time want insurence ! Yes they all talk to each other ____________________ Dave
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 196 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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