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It's not right whichever way you look at it.
The gov website says YNC 94X is a GSXR750 first registered in 2003, and manufactured in 1982. There's clearly no trace of a GSXR750 anywhere near that bike. There were no GSXRs in 1982 but there was a GSX750 in 1982. Both the early GSX750 and the later GSXR750 were 4 cylinder bikes.
The bike is ill-conceived, but you can't say whoever built that had absolutely no idea about bikes. Somewhere, he got hold of that custom frame. Whatever the frame number might have been, whether it even has one or if it's been purposely scratched off, we'll never know because it seems to be wrapped in vinyl. That's on purpose. Vinyl-wrapped frames will never look as good as professionally painted or powder-coated frames, so why would a custom bike builder do that...
2 obvious errors in the vehicle registration:
Year of manufacture
Model nomenclature
Both errors have one thing in common: they could both have been a "simple typo" on the DVLA computer. Wrong decade in a drop-down list, but the "2" might be right, for an actual GSXR750 made in 2002. Wrong extra letter ("R") in the model name, but the rest of the info might be right if it's an actual GSX750 made in 1982 and first registered in 1983...
Perfect room for doubt all round, don't you think? Deniable stuff, if you had a friendly gnome who works in Swansea you could call, and if you wanted to build a custom bike just for shows which would skirt around MSVA rules if picked up by ANPR (as the rules were looser in 1982).
Just a thought... Not saying this is a definitive example of corruption, but it would be a strange coincidence that matched this particular custom bike with a dodgy DVLA record. |
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Posted: 14:48 - 31 Oct 2020 Post subject: |
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At £576 and still 8 hours to go...
Probably registered as a Honda C90.
Some people have been quick on the uptake. Some haven't (I've cottoned on only recently). I believe that many laws have been academic - unofficially deprecated/offlined - for many months (in some cases, for years). Not just traffic laws, but lots of laws. Companies and councils often deny FOI requests now. Planning laws, competition and tender regulations are also being sidelined. I think, as far as vehicle laws go, this one will probably pass under the radar unless the police get a social media spotlight on them for doing nothing, which is unlikely. Some sort of wool-pulling is still going on in terms of police enforcement - a few cars being pulled over for no insurance, and that sort of thing. Mostly to be seen as doing something, on Twitter. But I think things like motorcycle modification rules are mostly a legacy thing existing in people's imaginations now. From the cafe butchery scene, which is already old-hat, to private electric scooters being ridden on pavements at 30mph, we're in a different world. |
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That's definitely a weird one! Bonus points for integrating the fuel tank into the frame tubing but I doubt it'll have much range ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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No, not that guy This is definitely a more modern contraption and he was riding in the road & bus lane. It was more like a cross between a Ruckus and a stand-up scooter. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 00:11 - 01 Nov 2020 Post subject: |
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Bhud wrote: | [From the cafe butchery scene, which is already old-hat, to private electric scooters being ridden on pavements at 30mph, we're in a different world. |
I hate these arseholes - usually the same user profile 20-30 year old males mainly, saw one today with a 'man bun' FFS. I've written to Halfords to complain about their tacit encouragement for selling these weapons for illegal use... ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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A100man wrote: | I hate these arseholes - usually the same user profile 20-30 year old males mainly, saw one today with a 'man bun' FFS. I've written to Halfords to complain about their tacit encouragement for selling these weapons for illegal use... |
Halfords know what they're doing. The bikes are "limited" to 15mph and are to be used "off road". In reality, they get derestricted and used on the roads and pavements. However, I doubt that end-user hackers reverse engineered these things. I think it's more likely the manufacturers themselves spread this information from day one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MAXu0UVl3s
I knew there would be chaos, but I didn't know what shape it would take, over a year ago:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4607453&highlight=#4607453
In reality, enforcement levels are radically different between different towns, even within a short distance (a couple of miles) between each other. I don't think "they" (police, councils, etc.) like us to know about that. In Henley-on-Thames someone could be reading this and wondering what on earth we're talking about.
Anyway, I can make a reasonable guess as to which way things are going right now. Whether it's good or bad I don't know, but I'm fairly sure we can get away with just about any motorcycle modification we like right now, in this twilight zone, just as long as we don't ping ANPR or annoy the "wrong" people. We're all going to need to adapt our way of thinking to not end up much worse off, in all sorts of ways (unrelated to bikes), because of the new developments. |
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I haven't made anything quite as dramatic as this "BMX" thing but I would guess, given it's lightness, the drum brakes would be sufficient. The geometry is closer to a C90 than a first glance might suggest. It has proper tyres and wheels.
Personally though I wouldn't fancy it without indicators. Contrary to what BMW owners will tell you they are useful to show other road users your intentions! BMX, BMW... only one letter different I guess ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I quite like it. I wouldn't want it or buy it but it's different and a bit of fun. I would be interested to know if it would have made more money as a standard C90 though. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CX500-custom-street-tracker-cafe-racer-bobber-very-low-mileage-ex-condn/124420483409?hash=item1cf809e951:g:lNMAAOSwYV5fn~ld
It's the detail which is the most depressing. Just horrible: Dodgy cables (the clutch outer is snapped and the retaining nut just lying on top of the rubber gaiter below), poor routing around the tank, invisible rear indicators are a SMIDSY-magnet. The plastic nut covers over the footpegs (some of which are already missing) are pretty crappy, but no original rubber cap over the more important swingarm locknut? For £3,500 I'd expect that level of detail, ie. completed. I mean, the speedometer cable is hanging below its retainer (on the brake caliper). Why, man? Why? I think we've been here before.
And the blurb is worse: allegedly, the seller has improved on Honda's poor exhaust design with his engineered system. I will buy the man a cupcake if he can prove the er, improvement. |
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Bru wrote: | And the blurb is worse: allegedly, the seller has improved on Honda's poor exhaust design with his engineered system. I will buy the man a cupcake if he can prove the er, improvement. |
A pair of eBay "15 dolla, blowy blowy" slip-ons, zero effort there. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 172 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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