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PostPosted: 17:15 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Sensible 'class A' bike choice for new licence holder? Reply with quote

My 24 year-old is currently trundling around very happily on his 125cc Vanvan, biding his time until he's able to take his Mod 1 and 2 tests, which he's keen to do ASAP.

Needless to say he's already window-shopping for his first 'big bike', and needless to say he's pretty horrified at the prospective cost of insurance, and that will be the limiting factor on what he ends up buying. Would welcome any suggestions on any particular bikes are likely to be less expensive to insure?

He'd originally been considering an XSR700 as his 'dream bike', but that looks to be out of the window for a couple of years I think. I came up with a Royal Enfield, which is certainly far cheaper to insure, and he's not totally averse to that... any others?

(He lives in a city; although bike is kept in a communal area reasonably safely behind a locked gate it's not garaged so I expect insurers will just class that as being the equivalent of on-street parking Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just gone from a Rebel to the XSR you mention I'd say 80% of the time 47hp is plenty. Maybe just get by with an A2 bike for a bit?

2 years down the road: NCD + over 25 should bring the insurance price down a bit. Dull but needs must and all that Sad
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph Street Twin is the obvious and higher quality offering to counter the Enfield.

If I were ye I'd be running obscure quotes on cheap obscure bikes and digging for gold.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Street Twin is a great bike, loved mine. They do command higher prices than the RE though and probably steeper insurance too. The ST has a massive hole through the engine/frame so if you can get a ground anchor you can put a massive chain through it and have the chain not touching the ground with the padlock directly under the bike - about as good as you'll get really.

Yes pretty sure insurers only consider a private enclosure as a garage - they might treat it as a drive though. If it's like the ones I know in Manchester, the gates are a doddle to trick into keeping open - not great for security and makes them almost meaningless. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

ER5 cheap as chips to buy and insure, dull as dishwater but will be do the job for a while to build up NCD Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynax wrote:
ER5 cheap as chips to buy and insure, dull as dishwater but will be do the job for a while to build up NCD Thumbs Up


While I agree, I think an RE would be more interesting. ER5s aren't THAT cheap; there seems to be a floor to the used bike markets, even for those, so a few £££ more gets you more interesting things.

That said, I do regret selling mine - it was a dull but effective workhorse, only got rid so my wife would let me have the viffer. Should have hidden the ER5 in the garden.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: Sensible 'class A' bike choice for new licence holder? Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
prospective cost of insurance


He's looking too far forward IMO. Insurance quotes at this point in time (without a license) would be a rough guide at best, and subject to varying prices depending on what way the winds blowing when it comes to time to actually buy.

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
(He lives in a city; although bike is kept in a communal area reasonably safely behind a locked gate it's not garaged so I expect insurers will just class that as being the equivalent of on-street parking Rolling Eyes )


So long as he was accurate at the time of buying his current policy then he'd only have to declare the same answer to "where is it kept overnight?" to get a more accurate quote price.

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PostPosted: 19:13 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:39 - 11 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also think that an A2 bike is perfectly fine - for maybe even 90% of the time. I have a Moto Guzzi V7 (47hp) and a Tracer 900 (115hp) and the V7 is not 40% of the fun of the Tracer - it's most often more fun than the Tracer. Slow bike ridden fast and all that kind of thing.
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