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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: NBR - need means of spraying old engine oil Reply with quote

Not bike related - just need suggestions on tackle that can be used for spraying used oil and/or fairly viscous stuff e.g. wood preservative.

Assume I own nothing - no compressors, nothing. I'm willing to spend a medium sort of amount. I.e. not looking to cheap ass it. I want stuff that won't clog and can be used continuously rather than in short bursts. Cheers guys.
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garden pressure sprayer? Might need to enalrge the hole (ooeerrr matron) slightly. Cheap enough to try, less than a tenner last time I bought one.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pneumatic oiler is the thing, but you'd need a compressor.

We used to spray thinned waxoyl onto steel that was going to be stored out in the elements using an HVLP electric spray gun. Used to just be left full of the stuff. A bit like this thing:
https://www.screwfix.com/p/energer-enb558srg-100w-electric-solenoid-spray-gun-220-240v/11919
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: NBR - need means of spraying old engine oil Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
need suggestions on tackle that can be used for spraying used oil and/or fairly viscous stuff e.g. wood preservative

I was looking a while ago at a Tacklife model SGP15AC, which has reasonable reviews, but endeded up just brushing.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sell sprayer for cuprinol-esque.

Less phapheritty than N*ggir Riggin'/Cobbling Some Frankensprayer together.

It will allow you an outing to b&q too.

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And... 😷 (specially whilst spraying your Product)

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PostPosted: 17:55 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its far too thick unless thinned down a little with petrol or parrafin. Especially at this time of the year.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve the grease wrote:
Its far too thick unless thinned down a little with petrol or parrafin. Especially at this time of the year.

You could also use diesel, petrol might be a little risky.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I welded up my old van
and in the abscess of a compressor
I used a pump up garden sprayer (tenner maybe?) to apply
old engine oil thinned a bit with white spirit to the chassis
worked well for me and have been doing it to old bangers for years.

Even used similar techniques in frame tubes and swinging arms
Some folk screamed "but its acidic! it'll eat the frame!!"
Bollox it is, the swinging arm and frame I welded up and flooded with old oil and white spirit
in 2005 is still sound and rot free 15 years later.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 16 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
steve the grease wrote:
Its far too thick unless thinned down a little with petrol or parrafin. Especially at this time of the year.

You could also use diesel, petrol might be a little risky.


Diesel is so slow to evaporate though, days and weeks , rather than minutes and hours. Paraffin probably the best compromise - or white spirit.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard Schutz spray guns are good for spraying oil
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small tank compressor with a low power motor, e.g. 25L/1hp will be running at 100% duty cycle and even then you'd have to stop every few minutes while the tank refills. The nozzles on most paint guns won't like thick oil, it'll adjust a bit but unless you have the correct nozzle forget it. Gravity fed guns are better, but even these will make a considerable overspray.

Bigger compessors are expensive, I extended the tank on my setup by adding an old butane gas bottle to one of the outlets. Even ths won't work for large paint jobs, as even at 75 litres, the motor isn't 3hp, which would be the minimum I'd recommmend.

I recently refurbed the front room and bought a cheap HVLP setup from Machine Mart. Two coats of thin watery emulsion onto bare plaster and it gave a perfect finish, with hardly any paint used. Overspray was less than on a high pressure gun, but I still wouldn't risk using it to paint in a carpeted room.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-apk900-hvlp-floor-based-electric-spray/

The HVLP setup is very sensitive to viscosity, you get a flow cup included in that setup, to help you judge the amount of 'thinners' to add. Once the flow is correct it works great, make sure you're filtering anything you put in the cup.

This particular rig might be a pain if you're doing a huge area, as the tank attached to the gun is only small, so you'd be refilling it a lot.

There's also this (cheaper) option, no experience of it though.
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cas110-electric-spray-gun/

TLDR, compressor setup is expensive, HVLP all day.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers everyone.

I'm thinking compressor. I'm sick of making do with bullshit heath robinson lash ups and general tight wad approaches.

I just want to get the jobs done. I'll pay for a decent compressor if needs be. So my question is now - what compressor, and what spray tackle for old engine oil and similar viscosity liquids. Budget around a grand? Could that do it?
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey, you've changed your tune a lot. You'd be better off paying someone who needs the money to do it for you.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Cheers everyone.

I'm thinking compressor. I'm sick of making do with bullshit heath robinson lash ups and general tight wad approaches.

I just want to get the jobs done. I'll pay for a decent compressor if needs be. So my question is now - what compressor, and what spray tackle for old engine oil and similar viscosity liquids. Budget around a grand? Could that do it?


Big tank, 3hp. If I was due an upgrade I'd go for something like this.
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/airmaster-tiger-161050-3hp-100-litre-air-compr/

That's about as good as it gets at that price point, much bigger and you're in the realms of needing three phase power.

Get connectors and hoses desiged for high flow, some hoses have small diameter interiors and fittings.

Someone on here bought a vertical one, that looked a nice bit of kit but IIRC it was about £6-700.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Crikey, you've changed your tune a lot. You'd be better off paying someone who needs the money to do it for you.


OP said I wanted to aim for somewhere in the middle, budget wise

i guessed this to be around a grand by the time all the bits were bought - looks like i was being a bit pessimistic, but it'll be half that at least
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Cheers everyone.

I'm thinking compressor. I'm sick of making do with bullshit heath robinson lash ups and general tight wad approaches.

I just want to get the jobs done. I'll pay for a decent compressor if needs be. So my question is now - what compressor, and what spray tackle for old engine oil and similar viscosity liquids. Budget around a grand? Could that do it?


Big tank, 3hp. If I was due an upgrade I'd go for something like this.
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/airmaster-tiger-161050-3hp-100-litre-air-compr/

That's about as good as it gets at that price point, much bigger and you're in the realms of needing three phase power.

Get connectors and hoses desiged for high flow, some hoses have small diameter interiors and fittings.

Someone on here bought a vertical one, that looked a nice bit of kit but IIRC it was about £6-700.


great - cheers
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
Crikey, you've changed your tune a lot. You'd be better off paying someone who needs the money to do it for you.

OP said I wanted to aim for somewhere in the middle, budget wise

i guessed this to be around a grand by the time all the bits were bought - looks like i was being a bit pessimistic, but it'll be half that at least

You said you wanted tp spray "oil and/or fairly viscous stuff e.g. wood preservative", which is I think why you got the replies you did. There's less than no benefit spending £1,000 to do that. So perhaps you could better define what you do want to do? What you need does actually depend on what you want to do....
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really cheap would be to take a big mouthful, purse your lips and blow a raspberry. The contents will spray out.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 17 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
Cheers everyone.

I'm thinking compressor. I'm sick of making do with bullshit heath robinson lash ups and general tight wad approaches.

I just want to get the jobs done. I'll pay for a decent compressor if needs be. So my question is now - what compressor, and what spray tackle for old engine oil and similar viscosity liquids. Budget around a grand? Could that do it?


Big tank, 3hp. If I was due an upgrade I'd go for something like this.
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/airmaster-tiger-161050-3hp-100-litre-air-compr/

That's about as good as it gets at that price point, much bigger and you're in the realms of needing three phase power.

Get connectors and hoses desiged for high flow, some hoses have small diameter interiors and fittings.

Someone on here bought a vertical one, that looked a nice bit of kit but IIRC it was about £6-700.


You can get that compressor in Aldi but it has a 50L tank. For spraying oil on a fence it would probably do the job https://www.einhelltools.co.uk/pdfs/store/WAC3050.pdf
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 18 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:

OP said I wanted to aim for somewhere in the middle, budget wise

i guessed this to be around a grand by the time all the bits were bought - looks like i was being a bit pessimistic, but it'll be half that at least

You said you wanted tp spray "oil and/or fairly viscous stuff e.g. wood preservative", which is I think why you got the replies you did. There's less than no benefit spending £1,000 to do that. So perhaps you could better define what you do want to do? What you need does actually depend on what you want to do....


it will be required on a regular basis
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 18 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
it will be required on a regular basis
Riejufixing wrote:
perhaps you could better define what you do want to do? What you need does actually depend on what you want to do....

"I want to use it regularly" is not the same as "I want to use it to...". The latter is important (and I think why you got the original responses).
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 18 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

to spray used oil continuously as opposed to short bursts
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