|
Author |
Message |
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
Posted: 11:21 - 28 Jan 2021 Post subject: The Great Reset |
|
|
The 'great reset' theory says that something needs to be done about the rise of A.I. and the power of big data. There is an obvious growing reality where A.I. takes over so many jobs that society is left with a new 'useless class' of people who simply aren't required because robots can do it for them. The 'useless class' will require a universal basic income.
Someone I know insisted I watch this short documentary.
https://vimeo.com/504878361/40c57eeafb
They wanted me to see the underlying big-picture conspiracy that the UK government is enacting, as part of the World Economic Forum's 'Great Reset' and the introduction of the 4th industrial revolution (the advent of A.I. and big data). Conspiracy theorists say the UK's appalling covid response has been deliberate, in order to crush businesses and create a new society where a handful of tech/corporate giants hold the power, with new sweeping control enabled via mass surveillance, big data and even human microchipping.
Apparently the documentary highlights lots of scary tyrannical things. Personally I thought it was fascinating and welcome the change. It's not like things have been getting any better for the last decade or two, so obviously something needs to happen. Maybe this is it? Pushing aside the conspiracy angle, it looks like a vision for a new world where tech is embraced and managed for good. There is even the concept of a 'robot tax', where companies must pay tax for the work their robots do, since those robots generate income just like the humans they are replacing (Amazon is the best example of this). Could we finally be approaching the future that was envisioned almost a century ago, where technology frees us from prior wage slavery?
Interestingly, Boris Johnson's 'Build Back Better' slogan from a few months ago was in fact a slogan taken from the WEF great reset event, and was used also by Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau, among others. So clearly there is some truth, at least to the fact that this 'great reset' idea exists, and that world leaders have it in their minds in some way.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ejk0gnaWAAAlSRW.jpg |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Polarbear |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Polarbear Super Spammer
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :
|
Posted: 12:57 - 28 Jan 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Sorry that article is as conspiratorial theory as anything else I have seen done by loonies. Cherry pick what you want, ignore what you don't.
As far as the great reset and universal income.
Cheap labour is cheap labour. End of.
Whatever is cheapest and wherever it is cheapest thats where companies will go. If robots are cheaper they will use them. If universal credit forces companies to pay 'robot' tax in UK, they'll move their factory to somewhere that doesn't have 'robot' tax. The wonder of globalisation.
In my industry i saw the worst of globalisation. In the 70's it was all British officers and crew on British flag ships (maybe up to 50 crew on a tanker). By the end of the 80's it was smaller crews. Ratings were from Hong Kong and India (cheaper). When I left the sea non of our ships were British flag. Officers and crew were from the cheapest source that had international recognition and the total crew on an oil tanker was between 15 and 18. There are now hardly any British seafarers and ships.
Labour costs are the biggest outgoing and the easiest to cut.
Paying our population £10000 universal credit would cost £670,000,000,000 ish. It isn't going to happen unless we get rid of the social state completely (saving a fortune) and say, that's your lot. If you spend it all, tough shit, you starve.
I can see that going down well with the great unwashed. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
Last edited by Polarbear on 13:07 - 28 Jan 2021; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Jmoan |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Jmoan Brolly Dolly
Joined: 18 Nov 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Kawasaki Jimbo |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Kawasaki Jimbo World Chat Champion
Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Easy-X |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Easy-X Super Spammer
Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Kawasaki Jimbo |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Kawasaki Jimbo World Chat Champion
Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Polarbear |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Polarbear Super Spammer
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
hellkat |
This post is not being displayed .
|
hellkat Super Spammer
Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
pepperami |
This post is not being displayed .
|
pepperami Super Spammer
Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Easy-X |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Easy-X Super Spammer
Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
chickenstrip |
This post is not being displayed .
|
chickenstrip Super Spammer
Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Karma :
|
Posted: 14:03 - 29 Jan 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
Lord Percy wrote: |
I'm not waiting for my UBI. To be honest, given that I work in software, I probably won't be in the new 'useless class' which these great resetters are predicting. |
What use are you, really?
If you vanished without a trace tomorrow, am I going to notice? Will your local community notice? Your company? Will they be crippled without you? Or will they just find someone to replace you, assuming you did have any usefulness? Do you have any family who would care? If you want to see people merely as objects of usefulness or otherwise, everyone is expendable. There's always someone else to take your place.
You're not useful to me, nor I to you. Who gets to decide what is useful and what is not? Do we all value the same things? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE! |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
The Shaggy D.A. |
This post is not being displayed .
|
The Shaggy D.A. Super Spammer
Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Kawasaki Jimbo |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Kawasaki Jimbo World Chat Champion
Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
Posted: 22:46 - 29 Jan 2021 Post subject: |
|
|
chickenstrip wrote: |
What use are you, really?
If you vanished without a trace tomorrow, am I going to notice? Will your local community notice? Your company? Will they be crippled without you? Or will they just find someone to replace you, assuming you did have any usefulness? Do you have any family who would care? If you want to see people merely as objects of usefulness or otherwise, everyone is expendable. There's always someone else to take your place.
You're not useful to me, nor I to you. Who gets to decide what is useful and what is not? Do we all value the same things? |
Well I can say for certain that the company I left 2 months ago have had to mothball the project they had me working on, because nobody else can do it, so yes there's a need. Not just for me, but software developers in general. We have a dire shortage in this country.
Aside from that, no I don't think I'd be missed hugely by humanity if I blipped into nothingness But neither would anyone, in the grand scheme of things! |
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Lord Percy |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Lord Percy World Chat Champion
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Easy-X |
This post is not being displayed .
|
Easy-X Super Spammer
Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :
|
|
Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
|
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 59 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
|
|
|