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Hi again
they told me they reset the ECU
And when i picked up my bike and started it up the first time i saw the letter L in gear indicator
just found this so think they did not rest ECU to honda's manual
Just to clarify any possible misunderstandings, this is the exact wording in the 700 DCT workshop manual section 12-120 and 121. (Note it says ensure the fan stops.)
CLUTCH INITIALIZE LEARNING (PCM)
• If the PCM and/or clutch assembly are replaced,
perform this procedure.
• Before starting this procedure, check the following:
– PGM-FI system and DCT system have no DTC.
– Engine idle speed is normal.
– Transmission is in neutral and cooling fan stops.
• Do not operate the throttle during clutch initialize
learning
1. Warm up the engine to the normal operating
temperature (engine oil temperature: 50 – 110°C/
122 – 230°F) and stop it.
If the PCM is replaced with a new one, the "D" and "S"
indicators [1] come on to indicate that the clutch
initialize learning is necessary when the ignition switch
is turned ON. Further the large "L" [2] (extremely low oil
temperature) or small "L" [3] (low oil temperature) is
displayed on the shift indicator to indicate that the
engine warming up is necessary if it is not warmed.
DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION (DCT) (NC700XD/SD)
2. Turn the ignition switch ON with the engine stop
switch " (in the run position) " while pushing the D switch [1] of the N-D
shift switch. The MIL [2] will come on.
Release the D switch after the MIL goes off.
• When only the dual clutch assembly is replaced:
No indication appears on the shift indicator [3].
• When the PCM is replaced:
The "D" and "S" indicators [4] come on.
3. Operate the N-D shift switch [1] in the sequence as
follows:
– Push the D switch
– Push the D switch
– Push the N switch
– Push the D switch
– Push the N switch
• When only the dual clutch assembly is replaced:
The PCM is ready to clutch initialize learning when
the "D" and "S" indicators [2] lights, and the "–" [3] is
displayed on the shift indicator and blinks at interval
of 2 seconds.
• When the PCM is replaced:
The PCM is ready to clutch initialize learning when
the "–" is displayed on the shift indicator and blinks
at interval of 2 seconds.
When the engine is not warmed up enough, the large
"L" [4] (extremely low oil temperature) or small "L" [5]
(low oil temperature) is displayed on the shift indicator.
If so, warm up it until the "L" on the shift indicator goes
off. Stop the engine and perform the steps 2 and 3
again.
4. Start the engine and let it idle. The "–" [1] on the shift
indicator starts blinking at interval of 2 seconds. The
Clutch Initialize Learning is successful, when the "–",
"D" and "S" indicators [2] go off.
Stop the engine.
The clutch initialize learning is unsuccessful, if the "–"
starts blinking at interval of 0.5 second or it goes off,
and the "D" and "S" indicators stay on. Perform the
initialize learning procedure from step 2 again.
5. Stop the engine.
6. Restart the engine, push the D switch of the N-D
shift switch
Edited June 30, 2017 by embee |
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Gen1964 wrote: | Hi again
they told me they reset the ECU
And when i picked up my bike and started it up the first time i saw the letter L in gear indicator
just found this so think they did not rest ECU to honda's manual
Just to clarify any possible misunderstandings, this is the exact wording in the 700 DCT workshop manual section 12-120 and 121. (Note it says ensure the fan stops.)
CLUTCH INITIALIZE LEARNING (PCM)
• If the PCM and/or clutch assembly are replaced,
perform this procedure.
• Before starting this procedure, check the following:
– PGM-FI system and DCT system have no DTC.
– Engine idle speed is normal.
– Transmission is in neutral and cooling fan stops.
• Do not operate the throttle during clutch initialize
learning
1. Warm up the engine to the normal operating
temperature (engine oil temperature: 50 – 110°C/
122 – 230°F) and stop it.
If the PCM is replaced with a new one, the "D" and "S"
indicators [1] come on to indicate that the clutch
initialize learning is necessary when the ignition switch
is turned ON. Further the large "L" [2] (extremely low oil
temperature) or small "L" [3] (low oil temperature) is
displayed on the shift indicator to indicate that the
engine warming up is necessary if it is not warmed.
DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION (DCT) (NC700XD/SD)
2. Turn the ignition switch ON with the engine stop
switch " (in the run position) " while pushing the D switch [1] of the N-D
shift switch. The MIL [2] will come on.
Release the D switch after the MIL goes off.
• When only the dual clutch assembly is replaced:
No indication appears on the shift indicator [3].
• When the PCM is replaced:
The "D" and "S" indicators [4] come on.
3. Operate the N-D shift switch [1] in the sequence as
follows:
– Push the D switch
– Push the D switch
– Push the N switch
– Push the D switch
– Push the N switch
• When only the dual clutch assembly is replaced:
The PCM is ready to clutch initialize learning when
the "D" and "S" indicators [2] lights, and the "–" [3] is
displayed on the shift indicator and blinks at interval
of 2 seconds.
• When the PCM is replaced:
The PCM is ready to clutch initialize learning when
the "–" is displayed on the shift indicator and blinks
at interval of 2 seconds.
When the engine is not warmed up enough, the large
"L" [4] (extremely low oil temperature) or small "L" [5]
(low oil temperature) is displayed on the shift indicator.
If so, warm up it until the "L" on the shift indicator goes
off. Stop the engine and perform the steps 2 and 3
again.
4. Start the engine and let it idle. The "–" [1] on the shift
indicator starts blinking at interval of 2 seconds. The
Clutch Initialize Learning is successful, when the "–",
"D" and "S" indicators [2] go off.
Stop the engine.
The clutch initialize learning is unsuccessful, if the "–"
starts blinking at interval of 0.5 second or it goes off,
and the "D" and "S" indicators stay on. Perform the
initialize learning procedure from step 2 again.
5. Stop the engine.
6. Restart the engine, push the D switch of the N-D
shift switch
Edited June 30, 2017 by embee |
Maybe they might not of fully erased the historic fault codes before they started, tell them to try that again ,its a simple enough job with the DLC and Brown and Green wires |
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I have an NC with dct myself and have worked on many
You should take it back they need to read clear ther fault codes and clear them
It may only may need adct reset but sounds more like a speed sensor fault Dose the ABS light clear ?
But take it back the repaires should sort it spoken by a repairer ! ____________________ Dave
NC750Xdct + others at work !
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