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iooi
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 07 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
kgm wrote:
Yep, every single one.


Glad it isn't just me, although we do appear to be in the minority.

I've done all of the things suggested here, I have always had a new visor and Pinlock as a pair, never new on to old. Done the cams too.

Honestly no clue what I'm doing wrong!


Do you keep taking your visors off to clean them?

Could be that if you do they are flexing and breaking the seal between the pinlock & visor.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 07 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, to be honest! They usually work well in my Arai lids until the adjustment has come to an end.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends entirely on the geometry of your visor, the tension our pinlock is under when it's installed/retention and your arc of movement.

The best pinlock retention system is arguably on the Arai Vas V visors. They don't have a cam. The pinlock is recessed into the visor by a few mm ensuring there's no displacement of the insert, nor will it catch as you open or close the visor.

The poorest retention I've had is on my AGV Corsa R. Flat race visor with brilliant viewing angles might be great, but every time you open the visor, the upper lip of the pinlock ALWAYS catches against the opening brow of the helmet. Because of this, a brand new pinlock can get scratched up within say 1 week's worth of constant use. AGV clearly were meant to function without the pinlock. With the amount of aggressive ventilation on the helmet, you can probably get away with not using it once at speed with controlled breathing.

My Shoei X Spirit III again uses cams. The flat race visor clears the brow of the shell without any issues. The 3D curved visor does so as well. Never needed to adjust either.

I think people also forget that with visors and pinlocks, you're meant to replace them every so often; scratches, UV degradation and what not.

But in my experience, Arai, Shoei, HJC have been pretty decent with their pinlock offerings.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only had two problems with Pinlocks:

1) The top seal always seems to be in my eyeline, which is irritating. Means I normally partially flip the visor to see properly, but then get wind blast.

2) Weird hazeing effect with any light source at night means you can barely see anything when in traffic. Have to fully open visor to fix this.

Was very annoying when I was a year round commuter, but ever so slightly better than without a Pinlock.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 25 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Shoei - no. As said above, push the visor almost flat and it plops under one cam and then nip it under the other. Seal fits perfectly and adjust the cams when done.

That said, if you wear glasses, that your visor doesn't fog up when your glasses still do render them largely pointless. And given that i avoid fog / rain for exactly that reason they are double useless.

My best buy for a noisy Shoei was some 3mm neoprene string that fits under the seal lip around the edges of the visor - all of the whistling has disappeared.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 25 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I genuinely think the pinlock for my cheap scorpion helmet was an absolute game-changer. Best £30 upgrade imho.
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