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You mustn't let the bastard past at any cost, specially if they've got a bigger bike than you. Weave all over the road, braking erratically, indicating left and pulling to right occassionally, whilst sticking the finger up at them
Nah, just ride sensibly and legally, being aware of vehilcles around you, getting past you is not your worry, it's theirs, if they want to come past they more than likely will. But you can still give 'em the finger though. |
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Ride normally and predictably and they will pass when it's safe.
I find other motorbikes among the hardest things to pass because they can start behaving erratically when another bike comes up behind them. I'll generally follow for a bit so I can size-up what they are up to. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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TravisBickle Formerly known as DUCAUDI
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Sort of on topic but not really...
A few weeks ago I was coming down the A21 on the single-lane bit between Kippings Cross and Lamberhurst. I came rolling up behind a guy on a Harley who was following a slower car in front of him. I was clearly in more of a hurry than he was (well let's call it more spirited riding) but I didn't intimidate him, ride too close to him or anything like that. I was keen to overtake the pair of them but held back for a while as stinkwheel says to size him up and assess what he was up to. I kept looking in his mirrors to try to make eye-contact or see if he'd noticed me but wasn't getting any feedback. He seemed quite content on following the slower car and made no attempt to overtake it for quite some time. So I waited for the next big straight and calmly went to overtake. At this point the guy on the Harley pulled out to overtake the car and I followed behind, I know Harleys aren't quick but I got the distinct impression he wasn't trying very hard to get round the car quickly. Almost like he was deliberately doing it as slow as possible to piss me off. We started approaching a bend and traffic coming the other way and he pulled right in front of the car and slowed down to the same pace as it but leaving sweet fuck all room for me to pull in behind him, meaning I had to virtually anchor up in the middle of two lanes and pull back in behind the car before the bend and oncoming traffic.
I've been wondering whether to put that down to him just being a Harley prick or whether to blame myself for attempting an overtake where there was no room to pull in. Irony is I could have dropped two gears and blasted past him WAY back, leaving him for dust, but I gave him the room and respect and patience we all deserve and waited for him to do the overtake and followed him through (would have then gone to overtake him one-on-one after passing the car rather than blasting past two of them in one go). You expect people to make dick moves like that in BMWs. I didn't expect it from another biker bro (Harley or not) when I'd done nothing to upset him in the first place ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Tuberculosis wrote: | ...Irony is I could have dropped two gears and blasted past him WAY back, leaving him for dust, but I gave him the room and respect and patience we all deserve and waited for him to do the overtake and followed him through.. |
So much for room, respect, and patience, eh? Odd experience you had. Mark one data point. Many of the HD bikers I encounter are all about showing off what great riders they are. Like splitting lanes at hair-raising speeds; most are quite eager to show me their tail light. A tap on your horn when you first pulled out might have alerted HD to your presence if he did not see you before. Might be preferrable to pass biker and car all in one maneuver, rather than pass the bike, then the car. Passing the Harley, only to tuck in behind the slow car could be erroneously interpreted as an act of aggression and yeild unintended consequence. On the other hand, Mr. HD could be a novice, or otherwise out of his league on that bike, petrified with fear, death grip on the bars. Oblivious. ____________________ History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men - BOC |
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jeffyjeff wrote: | On the other hand, Mr. HD could be a novice, or otherwise out of his league on that bike, petrified with fear, death grip on the bars. Oblivious. |
This is mostly why I didn't make a big deal about it. I mean I'm mostly pretty easy going and laid back when other road users do something stupid but this really pissed me off. I was tempted to give him some gestures or shake my head as I passed but I let that one go and just carried on up the road because there's enough road rage and lack of consideration and respect for other road users out there as it is without me adding to it, and I generally feel that bikers should stick together, look out for each other and go out of their way to be courteous to each other. I gave him the benefit of the doubt though and thought like you said maybe he was a beginner or just genuinely didn't realise I was there (although I think that's unlikely, it seemed pretty deliberate to me that he was purposely blocking my overtake as he slowed back down and stayed hard right after the overtake rather than continuing up the road to open up the gap behind him, and FWIW I think it's pretty irresponsible riding not to keep an eye on your six anyway, whether you're speeding or not, do you really want that half asleep lorry driver to plough into you if you're following a car going THAT slowly? If he didn't see me (and I was behind him for a decent amount of time), he SHOULD have seen me and been paying attention to what's behind him. ____________________ 2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
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Tuberculosis wrote: | jeffyjeff wrote: | On the other hand, Mr. HD could be a novice, or otherwise out of his league on that bike, petrified with fear, death grip on the bars. Oblivious. |
This is mostly why I didn't make a big deal about it. I mean I'm mostly pretty easy going and laid back when other road users do something stupid but this really pissed me off. I was tempted to give him some gestures or shake my head as I passed but I let that one go and just carried on up the road because there's enough road rage and lack of consideration and respect for other road users out there as it is without me adding to it, and I generally feel that bikers should stick together, look out for each other and go out of their way to be courteous to each other. I gave him the benefit of the doubt though and thought like you said maybe he was a beginner or just genuinely didn't realise I was there (although I think that's unlikely, it seemed pretty deliberate to me that he was purposely blocking my overtake as he slowed back down and stayed hard right after the overtake rather than continuing up the road to open up the gap behind him, and FWIW I think it's pretty irresponsible riding not to keep an eye on your six anyway, whether you're speeding or not, do you really want that half asleep lorry driver to plough into you if you're following a car going THAT slowly? If he didn't see me (and I was behind him for a decent amount of time), he SHOULD have seen me and been paying attention to what's behind him. |
Sounds deliberate to me, some people seem to take it as a personal insult when you overtake them. I think the right thing to do there is get back behind the car and let him overtake. I never like overtaking with someone else as you have no idea how fast they are going to go and if they will leave you enough space once past. |
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If someone is being a fuck-knuckle, SOP is to either drop back then overtake them at speed while they are already overtaking or outbrake them and ride it round the outside on the way into a corner because fuck-knuckles can't corner. Then look in the mirror for the ensuing hilarity. Wave a leg in the air on the way past.
The former is normally very entertaining because they are usually in no way expecting or watching for it and shite themselves. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 345 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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