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UncleFester
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebel is not well is he. That's all about I've gleaned of any use from this.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 'government' COULD HAVE given away vitamins A, C, D, zinc, as well as Invermectin and Hydroxychloroquine at drive-thru sites, pop-up clinics, schools and supermarkets nationwide, and life would never have deviated from normal ..BUT..

The health of people was NEVER the goal because there is NO money, NO power and NO control to be had out of that ..

Just wanted to pick up on this as a point of note.

I agree the government don't purely have the populations health at heart. If they did then all products with refined sugar would be much more heavily taxed, to the point they are unaffordable, smoking would be banned as it benefits no-one apart from the manufacturers and retailers, alcohol would be banned due to the massive costs to police and healthcare resources, motorcycles would be banned etc.

However if the government did intervene in every nuance of everyone's lives (admittedly they arguably are at the moment), then I suspect that would be another thing for you to fight against. There needs to be a balance in what they do and it's tricky to get right and you may fall outside those who it will appease, I know I currently fall outside of the people that agree with what they're currently doing.

As for the hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine argument, have a read of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0897190021997399?casa_token=6B9NHCaqzk4AAAAA%3A7kcieBqXJJDj52ebaW2oYIzTh42tZQElJcqA3atJ9fEwnmAFuxU6RMksBey1abiyubsdxCJaAGNZpQ

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The toxicity profile reported with the use of these agents includes thrombocytopenia, aplastic anemia, neutropenia, hemolysis (in G6PD-deficient patients), and macular retinopathy.19,22 Mild gastrointestinal side effects were also commonly seen, including nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhoea. However, a number of more concerning adverse effects were also reported, including ventricular arrhythmia and torsades de pointes.


As you can see it isn't the completely risk free alternative to the vaccines we have, and medically it is now not advised to be used as research has shown it to be ineffective. As for the minerals again these are things that people should be gaining through their daily food sources, and educated and encouraged to do so. I have taken Vit D for years as I used to work in a basement/room with no windows which is obviously problematic in winter, something I encourage anyone to take unless you work outside all year round.

Just to throw a spanner in the works I think there are partial bits of truth in lots of what Rebel posts, there is also a lot of information which has been disproven and most is dragged out to far-fetched and unbelievable conclusions.

@Rebel, I don't know if you're from a scientific background so apologies if this comes across as patronising but if you want to go through/discuss any scientific papers, or particular topics, then I'm happy to have a discussion. Although medical I am not pharamacology though I do need to know about it day to day.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rebel is a shelf-stacker's useless assistant.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Https://babylonbee.com/news/weird-melinda-gates-suddenly-changes-mind-about-divorce-after-receiving-vaccine

*It's wonderful*
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Https://babylonbee.com/news/weird-melinda-gates-suddenly-changes-mind-about-divorce-after-receiving-vaccine

*It's wonderful*


Awwwww.... Such great news.

I won't need to buy a new suit now. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 09 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had covid, was tested 3 times over a 23 day period until the last one came as negative. Completely asymtomatic, not a sniff.

Do you think i need a vaccine? I don't really want one as i obviously have active antibodies. Also, this is only an emergency vaccine, no long term testing so who knows wha could happen later.

What do people think about long term effects, fertility rates and giving to children? (the vaccine)
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 09 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:

What do people think about long term effects, fertility rates and giving to children? (the vaccine)


Who cares about fertility rates. Too many fucking breeders anyway.

No need to give it to children. They need to act as a dynamic pool of field strains to keep circulating the virus and therefore keep the immunity in the rest of the population topped-up.

Couldn't let them loose before vaccination reached a certain point or they'd have gone around killing everyone else.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 09 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear. It seems Pfizer and Moderna give you expanding heart syndrome, and no, I don't mean it makes you kinder.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57781637
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 09 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Oh dear. It seems Pfizer and Moderna give you expanding heart syndrome, and no, I don't mean it makes you kinder.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57781637


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Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given
Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given


If accurate, negligible. Meh.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Oh dear. It seems Pfizer and Moderna give you expanding heart syndrome, and no, I don't mean it makes you kinder.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57781637


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Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given
Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given


If accurate, negligible. Meh.


So was the AZ but look at the shit that caused.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not seen anything specific that puts me off the Covid vaccines. All of the side effects so far observed seem to be on very small scales. It is the medium to long term that I would be more interested in. For that, we just have to wait and see.
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:


What do people think about long term effects, fertility rates and giving to children? (the vaccine)


We don't know because they don't know. Nobody knows, not even the internets & specially not BCF.

It's worth your time to investigate exactly how this vaccine works & what it does to your body. Try to cut thru the propaganda (of which there is much) & discover for yourself just how little we actually know about the future effects . . . . And remember vaxxers, this shit is inside your body, doing it's stuff, forever.

Not to worry though, big pharma will sort you out with new drugs & a little £compo if it does all go tits up . . . . . Oh wait !
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PostPosted: 07:33 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:

We don't know because they don't know. Nobody knows, not even the internets & specially not BCF.

It's worth your time to investigate exactly how this vaccine works & what it does to your body.


So it's really not worth it then - because no one really knows. So either you want the vaccine(s) or you don't.

Back to retirement with you.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:


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Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given
Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given


If accurate, negligible. Meh.


So was the AZ but look at the shit that caused.


There was (and is) still a massive uptake despite the frenzied bleatings of the anti-vaxxers.

Quite encouraging really.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:
JackButler wrote:

We don't know because they don't know. Nobody knows, not even the internets & specially not BCF.

It's worth your time to investigate exactly how this vaccine works & what it does to your body.


So it's really not worth it then - because no one really knows. So either you want the vaccine(s) or you don't.

Back to retirement with you.


But but... WhackjobNutter is a world expert in everything

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Oh and mmmmmmmmm shit inside my body... Gotta love that vaccine.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vaccine is not inside your body forever. It's in there for a very short period of time until the immune system mops it all up.

The immune response stimulated by the vaccine is inside your body for a protracted period. Forever? Well, we can hope so.

The thing is, our bodies are making immune responses to all sorts of things all of the time. Pretty much to everything we encounter. They are generally pretty good at it, even when left to total random chance.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a lot of people who were clearly asleep in science class at school who are the ones who are now telling us to 'wake up'. The irony is palpable.
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mates wife is a Jerry. She tells me the anti vax shit in Germany has got so mainstream with all the problems linked to the various vaccines. Add in the 'who knows if Nobby's willie will shrink in the future due to vaccine' sooth sayers and the take up there is no where hear what the powers that be want.

Her own daughter, who is quite rational for a female, has refused the vax due to all the anti vax publicity in Germany.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
M Add in the 'who knows if Nobby's willie will shrink in the future due to vaccine' sooth sayers and the take up there is no where hear what the powers that be want.



I'll let you know if the size of my boner changes.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
The vaccine is not inside your body forever. It's in there for a very short period of time until the immune system mops it all up.

The immune response stimulated by the vaccine is inside your body for a protracted period. Forever? Well, we can hope so.

The thing is, our bodies are making immune responses to all sorts of things all of the time. Pretty much to everything we encounter. They are generally pretty good at it, even when left to total random chance.


There you go folks.

BCF has your answer . . . Virus bad, vaccine good.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funnily enough, yes. Dumbass.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know that he is a vet? And knows far more about biology than the vast majority of the worlds population? And definitely more than your average YouTuber.

And vastly more than a failed recovery driver.

Once again you show that you are a stupid cunt.
Just so you know we do have a couple of PhD people on here, neither of them post these days because they've got fed up with dealing with fuckwits.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 10 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
You do know that he is a vet? And knows far more about biology than the vast majority of the worlds population? And definitely more than your average YouTuber.

And vastly more than a failed recovery driver.

Once again you show that you are a stupid cunt.
Just so you know we do have a couple of PhD people on here, neither of them post these days because they've got fed up with dealing with fuckwits.


Its true. I've not posted for ages coz of the fuckwits.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 11 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

We using this thread now since it's got a last page?

I was thinking about splitting the last five or so pages off the old one as a new thread but I was afraid that would make even more of a mess...

Anyway. Back to coronavirus. I've heard quite a few people on the radio today bawwing about how everyone should still have to wear a mask because they are immunosupressed.

I would have thought a more sensible solution would be to give the (tiny percentage) of people who are at very high risk due to immune compromise a high-end N95 respirator type mask that is actually rated to stop droplets and aerosols from being inhaled. They can wear it anywhere they feel they might be at risk. Rather than make everyone else wear a cheap and shitty paper mask that probably doesn't do a very good job in the first place

This part of the population by necessity need to be taking particular care of themselves anyway and would have been best advised to avoid intensely crowded areas even before covid due to the increased risk of one of the many thousands of other diseases that hang around large concentrations of filthy humans.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 11 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
We using this thread now since it's got a last page?

I was thinking about splitting the last five or so pages off the old one as a new thread but I was afraid that would make even more of a mess...


I'm just guessing here . . . But maybe, given the time gap between the next post . . . . No one can work out what the fuck you on about.

Not even BCF !
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