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PostPosted: 20:24 - 27 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They had George Galloway on TV last night doing a party political broadcast.

Did nobody ever tell him it's bad manners to wear a hat indoors?



I totally agree, it grinds my gears seeing idiots wearing a hat indoors. I think they imagine it's some kind of stylish individuality.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 27 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
They had George Galloway on TV last night doing a party political broadcast.

Did nobody ever tell him it's bad manners to wear a hat indoors?



I totally agree, it grinds my gears seeing idiots wearing a hat indoors. I think they imagine it's some kind of stylish individuality.


Look on the bright side, he could be wearing a backwards baseball cap.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 28 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The voting system is getting almost as bad as the States.
They allow plenty of non citizens, refugees and kids to vote along with proxy or postal votes.

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a Commonwealth citizen who has leave to remain in the UK, or does not require such leave,
or a citizen of a European Union country,
or a qualifying foreign national who has permission to enter or remain in the UK, or who does not need such permission

In 2020, the Scottish Parliament passed a new law that means if you are aged 16 or over and resident in Scotland, you can vote in Scottish elections regardless of your nationality. This means that the following groups can now vote in Scottish Parliament and council elections:

Qualifying foreign nationals (those who have permission to enter or remain in the UK, or who do not need such permission)
Refugees (but not those with a pending asylum application in Scotland) Prisoners who are serving a sentence of 12 months or less in a UK prison and would usually be resident in Scotland



stinkwheel wrote:
They had George Galloway on TV last night doing a party political broadcast.

Did nobody ever tell him it's bad manners to wear a hat indoors?


If it's good enough for one of the Bee Gees then it's good enough for George.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 04 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hypothetically if Scotland does leave the Union and finds the grass isn’t greener on the other side should they be allowed to rejoin?
Would that require a vote that all concerned parties could take part in?
I imagine the leader of the SNP would have to resign...


As soon as Scotland left companies and individuals would flood out of Scotland for rUK in the transition period. I remember in 2014 even the tunnocks tea cake factory was planning to move to England.
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PostPosted: 02:48 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sturgeon calls out 'fascist' candidate in tense confrontation

...and the Crow calls the Raven black Rolling Eyes

Still, this is a candidate I could get behind:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/0C3D/production/_106233130_jayda_fransen_deputy_leader_of_britain_first_04.jpg

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PostPosted: 07:42 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayda_Fransen Vile little hate monger, world would be a better place if someone held a plastic bag over her head while stabbing her with a kebab skewer.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayda_Fransen Vile little hate monger, world would be a better place if someone held a plastic bag over her head while stabbing her with a kebab skewer.


Mmmm... ugly on the inside but a lot easier to fap to than the alternative:

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PostPosted: 11:32 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:

Mmmm... ugly on the inside but a lot easier to fap to than the alternative:


Maybe but her mouth is full of bile and her twat probably drips venom. I'd rather stick my dick in a shredder.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ms Sturgeon then told her: "You are a fascist, you are a racist and the southside of Glasgow will reject you."


A bit rich coming from a national socialist in Stasi Scotland.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 07 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ms Sturgeon then told her: "You are a fascist, you are a racist and the southside of Glasgow will reject you."


A bit rich coming from a national socialist in Stasi Scotland.


I don't know if Police Scotland and Czaress Nichola are actually on the same page.

PoPo Scootchland were not too enthusiastic about supporting/Policing The wee Wumin's Lock-Doon Detention Campaign aimed at Scottish Nationals returning to Scotland from anywhere abroad that was not UK.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 08 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayda_Fransen Vile little hate monger, world would be a better place if someone held a plastic bag over her head while stabbing her with a kebab skewer.


She'd knock you out though Wink

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/09/NINTCHDBPICT000433289525-e1536781695923.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 08 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah sincerely hope that wisnae flame ya bastirt. Mad

Jist try tae keep oor National Biscuits oot o' this argument. (Or else)

Freeeeeduuuumb!
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 09 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Im-a-Ridah wrote:


Ah sincerely hope that wisnae flame ya bastirt. Mad

Jist try tae keep oor National Biscuits oot o' this argument. (Or else)

Freeeeeduuuumb!


The owner of Tunnocks is ultra pro-Union (so probably would have moved to England), and Irn Bru were going to move to England too Wink

So I suppose it might be more accurate to say that you would be giving us your national biscuits. I think you still keep Lees, the maker of the cheap knock off's Wink

Englands new biggest export to Scotland: Irn Bru and Tunnocks Teacakes!
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PostPosted: 01:59 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly related to Scottish Nationalism (or at least its origins) let's have a pop at the French!

It's a nice easy game and one can see it at all levels of argument but recently someone had a jab at Robert Mugabe and Marxism*. (Apparently he managed to murder a third of the population which by percentage of population outdoes both Mao and Stalin.)

Anyhoo, along with World War II we can lay the blame for Marxism squarely at the feet of the French and it got me thinking that most of the good in the World comes from the UK (Industrial Revolution, you're welcome) and all of the ill from the French (Communism, WWII, strange cheese.)

Back on point the Scots and French have a had a cosy intellectual relationship through history so again I blame all this independence nonsense on the Frogs Wink

*For Rebel: Jewish South African Communists, according to wikipedia.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Scotland does actually become independent its going to be a total disaster. Voting to escape Conservative austerity and then having it replaced with real austerity, where the budget seriously and actually gets cut because there isn't enough tax and nobody is willing to lend to Scotland because they don't think they will ever get it back again. Scots realising that the SNP claims of Scotland being a net contributor to the UK were actually a load of nonsense. The borders will be mad because they voted remain. Companies fleeing Scotland fearing asset seizure and loss of access to the UK market. The EU flatly rejecting their application. Sturgeon doing a runner when it all goes tits up. There's no use anyone telling the nat voters this of course, but when it actually happens it will be interesting to see who they blame and what they do. Independence will be in coalition with the Greens so we can assume they will want the oil to stay firmly in the ground too, or the SNP might be forced to sell it off cheap to foreign investors to pay for day to day spending.

"Its like Brexit".... Nope! Even remainers accept that Brexit has advantages. Generally short term favours remain, medium term favours Brexit. In the case of Scottish independence its just all bad, beyond flag waving and feel good factors its got nothing going for it. Well, its good for England I suppose.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Back on point the Scots and French have a had a cosy intellectual relationship through history so again I blame all this independence nonsense on the Frogs Wink


It's largely based on shared simmering hatred for England though
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
Easy-X wrote:


Back on point the Scots and French have a had a cosy intellectual relationship through history so again I blame all this independence nonsense on the Frogs Wink


It's largely based on shared simmering hatred for England though


While we just feel a slight level of condescension towards our inferiors.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problems of the Earth is all religion based.

Fcuking caflicks...

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PostPosted: 17:53 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
let's have a pop at the French!

Laughing

With the typically reactionary French harassing Jersey recently, and a French Minister threatening to ‘retaliate’ by cutting the electricity supply, it did make me think perhaps the European Union genuinely has had a peacemaker role. It’s easy to see how hotheads may have sparked wars which needn’t have happened. It’s a good job we’re a more civilised nation.

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PostPosted: 18:32 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sturgeon is hoping Boris will oppose her referendum demands in the courts, but why would he need to? Holyrood has no constitutional right to declare a referendum, and if it does so anyway (like Catalan; how did the EU view that? Thinking ) at the cost of £16 million (based on the 2014 one) it will have no legal standing.

If it comes to it, Westminster ought to demand that the electorate be told precise details of income vs. outgoings, share of national debt, border issues, currency and the likelihood of the EU welcoming another mouth to feed. Drop the Barnett Formula’s subsidy to give them a taster too. The SNP have been reluctant to discuss details.

I strongly suspect an informed Scottish electorate (barring the nationalist nutters) would sensibly vote against. Maybe Boris should let it happen.

There’s a view which says Sturgeon doesn’t really want independence, just an excuse to blame the English for... whatever. I don’t believe that, but I do think she’d immediately disappear from the scene “triumphant” and let someone else deal with the aftermath in the unlikely event of “Leave.”

Maybe the rest of the UK should get to vote too, after all the NI agreement requires Eire to join any vote on unification.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:

Maybe the rest of the UK should get to vote too


I've been saying this for ages. Although undoubtedly Scotland would see the worst problems if it gained independence, the rest of the UK would not be unaffected. The Scots Nazis might be fighting for independence, but they ain't there yet.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sturgeon is hoping Boris will oppose her referendum demands in the courts, but why would he need to? Holyrood has no constitutional right to declare a referendum, and if it does so anyway (like Catalan; how did the EU view that? Thinking ) at the cost of £16 million (based on the 2014 one) it will have no legal standing.

If it comes to it, Westminster ought to demand that the electorate be told precise details of income vs. outgoings, share of national debt, border issues, currency and the likelihood of the EU welcoming another mouth to feed. Drop the Barnett Formula’s subsidy to give them a taster too. The SNP have been reluctant to discuss details.

I strongly suspect an informed Scottish electorate (barring the nationalist nutters) would sensibly vote against. Maybe Boris should let it happen.

There’s a view which says Sturgeon doesn’t really want independence, just an excuse to blame the English for... whatever. I don’t believe that, but I do think she’d immediately disappear from the scene “triumphant” and let someone else deal with the aftermath in the unlikely event of “Leave.”

Maybe the rest of the UK should get to vote too, after all the NI agreement requires Eire to join any vote on unification.


Oh Sturgeon gets asked these straightforward questions all the time and she never actually answers them, she gets goes back to her broken record of blaming Westminster or the Tories or the English.

Lets take your final point as an example: Who decides the future relationship. From what Sturgeon says she seems to think that its 100% Scotland's decision, but she won't give a straight answer on even something as obvious as that. In reality we know its a negotiation, and she's got nothing to offer and in all probability she will get an awful deal. She assumes there will be free movement? Into Scotland perhaps! But into rUK, that isn't her decision. Joining the EU? That is a question for EU member states, and they may well decide that good relations with rUK are more important than accepting a basket case.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
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Maybe the rest of the UK should get to vote too


I've been saying this for ages. Although undoubtedly Scotland would see the worst problems if it gained independence, the rest of the UK would not be unaffected. The Scots Nazis might be fighting for independence, but they ain't there yet.

Chiefly because “the divorce” would be long and painful, and England and Wales would wind up being the benevolent ex-partner keeping Scotland afloat while they negotiated access to a spare EU teat or found a way to survive on less.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 10 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
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Maybe the rest of the UK should get to vote too


I've been saying this for ages. Although undoubtedly Scotland would see the worst problems if it gained independence, the rest of the UK would not be unaffected. The Scots Nazis might be fighting for independence, but they ain't there yet.


Perhaps, but would it be right to allow English voters to inflict that suffering on the majority of Scots who oppose independence? And there is no way to sugar coat this, iScotland is going to suffer.
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