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Not in my experience it isn't. Get some advice and guidance for the Mods 1 and 2, go back and practice stuff - albeit on a 125. Let's be honest, the only difference is the weight. Best not to understate this too much, but I simply mean that a 125 and 600 are - for the purposes of the Mod 1, and most of the Mod 2, not that different. It's not like you can open the 600 up and cane fvck out of it.
Is he practising his Mod 1 drills in the layout and ground plans the test requires? Is he shortening the cone gaps, and the u-turn dimensions? Is he watching youtube crap about how testers expect learners to ride and manoeuvre? Doing all this on a 125 regularly, in between lessons on the big bike, is almost never going to harm the reinforcement and, or, development of his riding skills.
tl;dr - I didn't do and intensive block, and although it did sometimes feel like I was getting milked, it was actually for the best, I think. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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i found having a 125 to use at home, between lessons, really helped me, i could practice what i was being told on my lessons
the crash course 4-5 day intensive thing wasnt for me, needed to fit around my work, and also take things at my own pace, as having never been on a bike before my CBT its all new to me and need time to digest what ive been taught each time, so my lessons are sometimes weeks apart, in fact due to covid some have been months and months apart
i could be wrong, and a 4-5 day thing could have had me passed a long time ago, but i felt better about spacing it out a bit and was much easier around work too, booking a half day off here and there
you soon get used to the difference in power and weight from the 600 on the next lesson, within the first few mins your adjusted i find |
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YMMV or Your Stopping Distance May Vary
Much the same as the SV, given its weight you could feasibly do an emergency stop on the MT-07/XSR700 with just the rear brake, in ideal conditions. But on that last part it's a bad habit to get into: ABS kicking in = fail if it can be avoided as my old instructor used to say. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | I am in the exact same situation at the moment so I will go on my own first-hand experience.
I am doing my DAS and I got a 125cc that I use for commuting and to be honest if I could go back in time I wouldn't have bought the 125cc and just did the DAS alone.
For me there was too massive a difference between the 125cc and the 650cc that I have been doing the DAS on. I actually prefer the 650cc it is far more forgiving than the 125cc.
Another thing that became apparent was that between my CBT and my DAS day 1, I had been riding the 125cc unsupervised and had picked up a load of bad habits. You don't realise the rear brake on a 125cc is shit until you are on an SV650 and you've already conditioned yourself to the uselessness of the rear brake on the 125 and rely on the front brake. Suddenly the rear brake on the SV650 is genuinely the only one you need if you plan your ride.
Then again, maybe this is all because of my individual circumstances and I am complete shit at the fundamental level.
I failed my MOD 1 but I think that was my own personal nerves that got the best of me and I didn't listen to the instruction that was given to me in the practice sessions on going wide on the figure of eight to give myself room. |
some good points in this actually, but i wouldnt say the 125 is more forgiving than the bigger bike, in my experience, far from it, the 125 is so easy to ride, very enjoyable, the 600 im on is quite twitchy on the throttle low down (ER6N)
with how forgiving the front brake is on my 125, i did actually stop using the rear on the 600 briefly as i was not used to using it on the 125, so had to get used to using that again once covid allowed my lessons again
it is possible to pick up bad habits on a 125, but with no covid lockdowns now to give you big gaps between lessons like i had, they should be regular enough to correct anything quickly enough, and the road experience and time in the seat does help |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 303 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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