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Fuel additive to combat carb icing
Fuel additive to “stabilise” petrol on storage - not sure, I use the same stuff as above (Silkolene Pro-FST) but I also reckon I’ve left a bike for months without and the petrol didn’t “go off.” I’ve got a petrol-powered generator which isn’t used often and that starts and runs fine on what’s been left in the tank.
fuel additive for de-coking/ morpowah! Snake oil. |
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Both my bikes (when running) are old.
So if I occasionally put the wrong sort of unleaded in my tank cos they've both got the same damn number on them at the pump ... then its okay, now and then? ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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If I added a FULL bottle of Redex to each tank when I first got the CBR, it cured the low speed stuttering. Naturally I stripped, cleaned, adjusted, and balanced the carbs, new fuel filter, no difference.
As 97.4% of carb problems are electrical, it was obviously one of the plug coils.
Running a dozen bottles of Redex through the fuel system, you'd have thought the carbs would have been spotless, but a couple of the jets were partiality blocked, and the usual furred up brass was still present.
I've only noticed high RON fuel ratings make a performance difference on highly tuned turbo vehicles with knock sensors. They can control ignition advance to the point of knock, then reduce it slightly. A low stressed engine on a commuter bike doesn't get a knock sensor for a reason, and will run on any fuel all day long without knocking, even on the hottest days, as the cooling system maintains the correct operating range.
With 10% ethanol fuels (clearly labelled as E10 on the pump) are due to go into wider circulation, if you're leaving an older bike standing around, you might notice the higher absorption of moisture and subsequent separation. This is an appropriate case for dumping extra cash in the tank, as to which additive I don't think any of them are better than sticking with E5 where possible.
At the moment Shell (for example) have up to 5% ethanol in their regular and premium petrol. In future E5 might only be available in the premium nozzle, purely speculating here, but this would still be the cheaper option, rather than buying an extra bottle of unknown liquid to put in. ____________________
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Every year I buy a BG Products kit of treatments (for the car anyway) will do the same for the bike when I get it.
The kit consists of:
1. An engine flush.
2 An Oil additive.
3. A fuel treatment.
Had the suppliers come round to my workshop for a couple of hours while they demonstrated their wares. Now I'm a sceptic when it comes to additives but the various demos the did on my engines were very impressive. I've been using them ever since.
Basically, the flush is added for 30/40 mins prior to draining, and losens all the thick sludge in the remote spots that start collecting gunge. This I've seen the results of, after removing the sump, the innards were absolutely spotless.
The Oil treatment is added to the new oil, supposedly prevents oil thining prematurely, although I can't vouch for this as my oil doesn't last that long, (after 200K it tends use a bit of oil).
The fuel treatment loosens soot, from the carb through to the combustion chamber, valve ports, piston crown, and rings and effectively does a complete decoke. I put a tin in to a 70'ish litre tank, and by the time I've used the tank up, the note of the engine is noticably different, in a good way, it also prevents the growth of bacteria in standing fuel.
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GettinBetter wrote: | Every year I buy a BG Products kit of treatments (for the car anyway) will do the same for the bike when I get it.
The kit consists of:
1. An engine flush.
2 An Oil additive.
3. A fuel treatment.
Had the suppliers come round to my workshop for a couple of hours while they demonstrated their wares. Now I'm a sceptic when it comes to additives but the various demos the did on my engines were very impressive. I've been using them ever since.
Basically, the flush is added for 30/40 mins prior to draining, and losens all the thick sludge in the remote spots that start collecting gunge. This I've seen the results of, after removing the sump, the innards were absolutely spotless.
The Oil treatment is added to the new oil, supposedly prevents oil thining prematurely, although I can't vouch for this as my oil doesn't last that long, (after 200K it tends use a bit of oil).
The fuel treatment loosens soot, from the carb through to the combustion chamber, valve ports, piston crown, and rings and effectively does a complete decoke. I put a tin in to a 70'ish litre tank, and by the time I've used the tank up, the note of the engine is noticably different, in a good way, it also prevents the growth of bacteria in standing fuel.
Kits are available for both diesel and petrol. |
The shower I work for use an additional engine oil filtration system.
It has a spun fibre filter medium and a time release TBN booster.
Normal change is about 500 running hours.
With the filter system we see change due (using oil analysis) at 2000+ running hours.
It costs $500/ filter.
Filter replaced every 500 hours.
Oil costs $1000/ change.
It saves some maintenance time (engines can be online longer without stop for service.)
When the additional filter is changed the engine OEM filters are also changed.
We do not notice any detrimental effects on engine performance or wear.
Been using the system across the international engine fleet for about 20 years.
With regards to oil additive systems.
Waste of money.
Modern Engine oils have additive packages to reduce engine wear by helping oil performance.
Reducing effects of oxidation, high temperature, protection from acidification, cleaning and protection of viscosity.
Adding extra additive is Hocus-Pocus.
A bit like people who get their knickers in a twist over an egg cup full of oil that stays in the engine when draining. And let it drop drip drip for 30mins.
No need. Drop the oil, replace the filter, shove the bung back in (new washer/gasket/seal) fill the Hoowur with new oil. Jobbie Jobbied. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Fuel additive to “stabilise” petrol on storage - not sure, I use the same stuff as above (Silkolene Pro-FST) but I also reckon I’ve left a bike for months without and the petrol didn’t “go off.” I’ve got a petrol-powered generator which isn’t used often and that starts and runs fine on what’s been left in the tank. |
Bike left sitting in the shed for nearly two years, no fuel treatments used. Charged battery, started easily and ran smoothly from the off. That's not to say I think that will last forever... ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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steve the grease wrote: | My old bike runs a lot better on Shell V power compared with supermarket/ local garage fuel, idles from cold for a start ( probably more volatile). It claims to clean. It's a few pence a litre dearer than regular fuel. You could run a tank through, the price difference would be a lot less than a can of Redex or whatever. |
I have found Fazer FZS1000s generally run a bit smoother on this. Coming from just me, that's perhaps anecdotal, but I have heard others report similar.
A very well-respected mechanic I used to go to also recommended it, and not just for mild cases of rough running that were otherwise difficult to pin down. He suggested using it all the time.
One bike shop I worked for, whose workshop also had a pretty good reputation, also said it seemed to have some efficacy on Yamahas of that period (2000s-ish) generally. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 313 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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