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Posted: 08:34 - 21 May 2021 Post subject: |
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The only additive I have ever used is Marine 16 to kill diesel bug in marine engines and you wont get that in bikes
When I was at sea I'd leave my bikes for up to eight months and the petrol was fine when I got back.
I do like the smell of Redex in old classic bikes though. I doubt it does much but it's up there with 2 smoke and Zen perfume on my erotic smells list. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Posted: 12:32 - 21 May 2021 Post subject: |
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MCN wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
I have found Fazer FZS1000s generally run a bit smoother on this. Coming from just me, that's perhaps anecdotal, but I have heard others report similar.
A very well-respected mechanic I used to go to also recommended it, and not just for mild cases of rough running that were otherwise difficult to pin down. He suggested using it all the time.
One bike shop I worked for, whose workshop also had a pretty good reputation, also said it seemed to have some efficacy on Yamahas of that period (2000s-ish) generally. |
Fking Homeopathy of Hydrocarbons now?
It's a lot like the Coke v Pepsi challenge.
There's probably Eff all difference in the product and more in the marketing. |
I can only state my experience. I am not forcing anyone to try it. I'm sorry it makes you angry. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 23:55 - 21 May 2021 Post subject: |
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I'm not guilty of anything other than stating my own experience on the matter. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 17:05 - 22 May 2021 Post subject: |
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People are probably reading too much into what I'm saying anyway. I tend to favour VPower when it's convenient, but don't hunt for a Shell garage when I need to refuel. Since the tuning mods were done to my bike, it runs a lot better anyway. Apparently it could be even better if I added a 3 or 4 degree ignition advancer (or modified the existing plate to achieve the same - it's simple enough). Maybe if I tried it, I'd notice a difference, but I don't notice anything that suggests a need for it.
With the tuning that has been done, initially it had some material taken out from the inside bottom of the carb rubbers, block side, which removed a 'lip' conceivably interrupting smooth intake flow a little, the idea to increase efficiency to the max. Some say it makes a noticeable difference. But when I got this bike, I swapped the modified carbs from the last one, but not those carb rubbers, since the ones that came on this bike were in much better general condition. Can't say I noticed any loss by not doing so. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Carbon deposits on pistons won't build up any appreciable amount from just using one tank of fuel. |
Yeah, it does make me wonder. According to Shell, VPower's only claim is to have cleaning additives, so you wouldn't expect any kind of instant results. But there you go, that's what I thought when I was using it. That was on stock bikes, which did have a little glitch at low revs. I'd like to try it again, since I haven't refuelled with it for some time now, but not riding anymore, so I can't
Btw, is there only one size of endoscope? Or is it just that Nobby likes lube? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 20:28 - 22 May 2021 Post subject: |
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Carbon deposits on a modern engine running on modern fuels are a negligible concern.
Auld shitty Engines that were clashed together by the OEM and were probably overloaded and abused would eventually start to burn oil as wear increased.
70k miles was about a good point to overhaul.
Modern engines can easily do twice that before overhaul (If worth it).
Fuel additives will only be worth while if they increase range/power.
And there are Hee-Haw additives on the market that provide any cash benefit. And probably do not even recovery the cost of addition to the tank or the phaphery involved.
Modern Fuels DO contain additives that older fuels did not have. The additives are there for many reasons.
One reason may be simply to discourage some folk from drinking it. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Posted: 21:20 - 22 May 2021 Post subject: |
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MCN wrote: | Carbon deposits on a modern engine running on modern fuels are a negligible concern.
Auld shitty Engines that were clashed together by the OEM and were probably overloaded and abused would eventually start to burn oil as wear increased.
70k miles was about a good point to overhaul. |
I remember a magazine article from years ago where they stripped down a GS550 engine (kind of dates it) with that kind of mileage, perhaps more, and found next to no build up of any kind of deposits, and minimal signs of wear.
Similarly, I remember another article with, I think it was a ZX6R, where they ran it on full throttle for hours with no oil in it, and it didn't seize up. They just gave up the experiment when they got bored with it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Do you get less carbon deposits if you're the kind that thrashes their bike all the time? Or more? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Gotta say, it isn't something I've been concerned about since I last owned a 2 stroke. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 337 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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