gumtree scam - how does this one play out?

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

my bike's on gumtree - only since this morning though

by PM today I get this from someone - it's their second message, first asking to buy the bike, me replying and saying yeah sure, the ad comes down once the amount plus fees is in my paypal account:

Great! please consider it sold and take the ads down off gumtree,i am buying it for my son and i am ready to pay your full asking price, i have read through the advert and I'm totally satisfied with it and i will be glad if you can get back to me fast, sadly i won't be able to come for the inspection and pick up due to my disabilities, I loss my hearing and being on a wheelchair but I have a courier agent that will help me to pick it up at your preferred location Regarding the payment..i can't make an online banking am having technical issue with my bank and i can only access my PayPal account at the moment and I will be responsible for all the PayPal fee/charges on this transaction kindly get back to me with your PayPal email, Phone Number and the pick up location so that i can inform the courier agent about it now? Awaiting your reply soon.
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[Islander]

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

how do they get the bike?

and why would they want a poxy 20 year old cbr600 worth 2k?
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[Ayrton]

They get a courier to pick the bike up and then file a claim with paypal to refund the payment. I think most of the bikes end up going abroad.

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

yeah i thought it was something along those lines - I just didn't know they could quite get the claim w/ paypal to go through so easily
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

I think you're an absolute mad man accepting PayPal as payment in the first place.
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[stinkwheel]

Report them to gumtree, their account will be taken down. This exact scam was on radio 4s consumer program last week. Word-for-word the same except they are now claiming to be deaf too, they were answering the phones last week.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

[ThatDippyTwat]

It's been around for a while. It's usually a very good, but fake, cashiers cheque, the paypal part is a new twist on an old scam. As said, no bike, no money, and usually, no recourse as they're almost certainly not in the UK.
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[WD Forte]

I recently put my 'classic' CX up on Gumtree just to test the water for what I thought was an OTT sum.
£2107 to be precise
I almost immediately got offered 2k for it which if I was seriously flogging it would have been nice but as I got no questions about it just the offer, it made me somewhat suspicious.
It may have been a kosher offer but I reckon it pays to assume its all at least a potential scam until the cash is in yer hand.
Paypal? no effing way
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[xX-Alex-Xx]

This is one of the oldest scams around. PayPal pretty much always sides with the buyer, so they'll just claim a load of BS and PayPal will almost certainly refund them.
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[Ste]

The payment you receive would be from a stolen paypal account.

When the account holder notices the transaction and reports it to their bank, the payment will be reversed.

At this point you have no bike and no money. If you withdraw it from your Paypal before the account holder notices the transaction then your Paypal account balance will become negative.

They would not be using their own paypal account.

[Easy-X]

I've given up on Gumtree. Comes to something when it makes Facebook marketplace look legit!
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[Islander]

[stinkwheel]

No. That's not what happens.

If you go any further with it, the buyer will tell you he has arranged for the courier to come and collect the bike but that due to the afore-mentioned fault with his bank account, he's been unable to pay them.

It will transpire that for some improbable reason, the courier will now only accept payment with Amazon gift cards that you can handily purchase at your local supermarket. Of course he is disabled, deaf and in a wheelchair so he can't get them. It's ok, you can still help this poor disabled person. He will paypal you the money for the courier in advance. All you need to do is purchase the cards on his behalf then scrape off the foil and read him the numbers...
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[SirFallalot]

I know someone who not only fell for that and sent them 2 or 3 hundred, but then asked me to borrow £200 as it wasn't enough for the courier. Was a bit upset when I didn't, but later realised he was out of pocket and no closer to selling the bike.

Not what I expected from someone in their 30s. Appalling
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[Adame]

[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

I know it's a scam - I was just curious how it worked. Interesting to see someone else is getting this shit though.
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Mobylette Type 50 ---> Raleigh Grifter ---> Neval Minsk 125

[A100man]

Gumtree, scumtree, scamtree...

..see what I did there
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[Easy-X]

I don't know if it was Gumtree but a friend spotted a bike he fancied. Problem 1: located in Scotland, Problem 2: "I'm not in the country right now but you can pick it up from my ex-wife..." Problem 3: "completely safe as we'll set up an escrow account"

FFS, keep the scams simple pls
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[A100man]

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