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Been watching on and off today and its very amateurish. A lot of opinion but certainly not news. Its more of a rather thin political magazine than a news service. A lot of mouthy affluent media types on a nice little earner. Inb4 "but al beeb etc", yes I know the other news channels are populated by overpaid grifters |
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How about this radical idea: employ journalists instead of activists |
I don't think such a thing exists anymore does it?
I still think it's a massive oversight not to have regular headlines programs that just report what is happening both in the UK and abroad, without any of their own take on the topics. That can come from interviews with those involved in the events, preferably from all sides. I don't want to be told what to think, I want the facts so I can make my own judgement. Plenty of political bias channels on YouTube if that's what I want, and that also makes me think they're not taking into account that such channels are very much a powerful source of competition for all legacy-type tv channels. It's not necessarily what I want from a tv channel. Maybe have weekly programs that cover such things, but not all day every day thanks.
So it is being said by some that there is a concerted campaign from certain quarters to get them taken out. If they don't improve, I don't think it'll need it.
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | I think they need to interview some politicians and ask the real questions we all want answered, not the usual “gotchas” which don’t even require a reply. I suppose politicians are avoiding the channel at the moment. |
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chickenstrip wrote: | Easy-X wrote: |
How about this radical idea: employ journalists instead of activists |
I don't think such a thing exists anymore does it? |
Jordan Peterson made an interesting comment that I think is relevant here, in an interview with Michael Malice recently.
He described how in his visit to Channel 4, for that infamous interview with Cathy Newman, she was polite and 'normal' with him before the interview itself, but as soon as the interview actually started, she became the mouthpiece of C4's agenda-based approach and quite aggressive. He put it down to the way legacy media organisations work, much in the way many politicians go into their trade with good intentions but are hijacked by an inflexible system. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Those feckin meerkat muppets have infiltrated the advertising already! That's it, I'm out!
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The Andrew Neil evening slot is becoming a regular thing for me. And why not - when we used to have real news programs, I'd watch one or two regularly. Funnily enough, Neil's late night slot on the BBC before their snowflakes melted was the last thing I used to watch.
GB News beats all the others on that alone thus far. I don't particularly want to be watching tv news all day anyway, and everything else has been shite for years.
I think Dan Wooton's slot is showing some signs of improvement from the first night, when he seemed a bit too keen to air his own opinions in a rather grating manner. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MCN wrote: | politicians...
And maybe to many people in that 'job' are far removed from standing at a bus stop on a wet Wednesday morning waiting on the bus to work. |
Bus wankers!
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And maybe to many people in that 'job' are far removed from standing at a bus stop on a wet Wednesday morning waiting on the bus to work.
They've spent their career dodging work.
All in all a despicable species. |
Well yeah, and then people vote for them and they end up Prime Minister. As ever, we get what we deserve.
chickenstrip wrote: | I don't want to be told what to think, I want the facts so I can make my own judgement. |
chickenstrip wrote: | The Andrew Neil evening slot is becoming a regular thing for me. And why not - |
Because it's a channel designed purely to manufacture outrage in right-wing snowflakes, without even the pretence of original reporting?
It continues to amaze me how people allow themselves to get sidelined by the whole wokeness/culture wars bullshit (whether for or against). It's encouraged at every step by the actual elites (not the shadowy unspecified ones, the actual ones in government, running the corporations, and starting their own news channels). And they encourage it for a very simple reason. The long term effect of the woke debate on them, is exactly nil.
The more people are engaging in and expending their energy on culture wars, the less they're paying attention and demanding change to anything that actually matters.
The people pulling down statues, AND the people getting pissed off about it, have both been equally distracted by pointless bullshit. And as far as the actual elites like Andrew Neil are concerned, that's all to the good. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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It's an interesting perspective Zen Dog, and there may be some truth in it. I'd like to see you prove it? Otherwise, it's just another opinion on the pile.
Trouble is, when you look at the US where it all seems to originate from, and you see all the violence and crime that is left to go unchecked in the name of all these SJW causes, you wonder if that can be the case.
Quite possible that there's a bit of truth in both perspectives, maybe even one using the other to promote and advance its agenda, but either way, it is all hugely damaging to society.
We are living in interesting times, and it is very difficult to unravel what is actually going on. I see both the woke, and corrupt authorities stirring the pot, along with the media and much else besides. I think most of us would just like to see it all go away. I don't think it will though.
But when I listen to what those on GB News want (and I mean actually listen to it, without preconceptions)*, I'd prefer to go with that than the woke/SJW agenda. Politics is all agendas after all. Pick your side. Or sit it out and don't comment. But then you have to accept what happens, whichever way the wind blows.
*I should say I find opinions on GB News that I agree with, and some I disagree with. That to me suggests they're getting it right. If I watch BBC or Ch4, they both just piss me off. The bias there is just too extreme to hide or deny. I always feel they're just preaching to me as if they think they're the holders of "the truth", like they have some God-given right to tell me what I must think. I don't feel that with the new channel. But maybe that too is just because of my own bias. I do agree that the new channel is a bit too opinion-heavy to truly be called a news channel though, and perhaps that's not such a great idea.
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You probably know what you mean MCN ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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GB news is more of a symptom than a cure and i agree with the position that the irritated right is a complementary complex to the snowflake wokists. I watched this documentary on Netflix https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/81254224?preventIntent=true
The most interesting point it made was that one the worst things about social media is that its created an exaggerated culture of polarization where people are driven further into their own little idealogical corners. GB News just provides another rabbit hole to scurry down. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 301 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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