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Posted: 01:23 - 14 Jul 2021 Post subject: |
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hellkat wrote: | So he reckons I should offer it out to someone - (who may or may not be another consort) that has contemplated stripping it for a project, but is too idle to come to London to pick it up - and reckons that if nobody comes to get it, then I should give it to the scrap dealer
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Please don't scrap it. That's a hard, hard end for a thoroughbred, and that's a future classic bike.
I take on project bikes periodically, and I see them through to completion. I'll just give you an insight into my thinking on these things. I've done 2 KZs (I call them KZs, in the American style, because this defines them as 80s Kawasaki) this year. They are different bikes - different engine type and capacity. One of them I just couldn't live with when it was complete - I thought it was just awful, and the second one, I'm going to KEEP because it's pretty awesome. In total, these 2 project bikes cost me a lot. I HAVE kept an Excel spreadsheet. I didn't get back what I'd put into the first one. However, both of them gave me what I wanted, insofar as they were what I wanted to do with my mind and my hands, outdoors.
There are 2 types of people when it comes to project bikes. The first, just buys it and throws it somewhere, to break for parts to put on Ebay, or to wait for its rarity to inevitably push up the price. The second, wants to buy it because they like the bike, enjoys fixing things, etc. The first will do the same as you - just store it until value appreciates, do nothing and then sell it. This means they will benefit more than you. There are these hoarder types - unpleasant people. The second will not come and buy your Tenere just because it's there - it falls into cycles of time and money. Investments and savings factor into those considerations. So the logical thing to do in this situation appears rather to either hold onto the bike until someone comes along with a fair offer with a view to restoring it, or restoring it yourself in your spare time.
Just my opinion. It's your property and you may do with it as you will. |
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hellkat wrote: | My Super Tenere 750, I loved that bike.
I was looking at it across the garden fence with the senior consort on the weekend, he tutted mightily - proclaiming that as I had neglected to stuff the carbs with rags when putting it in there, it would be totally fucked and unrestorable now.
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Eh? with respect S.C. knows sh!t. If the carbs are on the butterflys* will stop insects rodents and most other nonsense entering the head and potentially combustion chambers to cause damage, same if exhausts are fitted.
Carbs can be cleaned/rebuilt easily enough and there are specialists who will do this for you (choose carefully mind). Your only real issue is if water has enterd the bores somehow and corrosion has set in.. Hopefullly thi is not teh case. Also fuel tanks can be problematic for standing bikes -condensation internal => rust => pin holes.
There will also be issues with running gear - brakes etc.. but these again can be rebuilt or bolt-on replacement fitted if you have the ££s
What was the issue when it was parked up?
* not real ones ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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hellkat wrote: | Bhud wrote: | I HAVE kept an Excel spreadsheet. |
Just ... wow.
The rest was interesting. That is hilarious.
What drives you to keep a spreadsheet? |
Just keeping track of spending. What happens is, you get £20'ded on a project bike. £20 here and £20 there. Another throttle cable kit, another set of plugs, tgatbnew set of bars, another battery, another coil, etc. It adds up but it doesn't register in your conscious mind, because the only real numbers that stick in your head are what you paid for the bike initially, and large purchases, e.g. fuel tank. The spreadsheet helps keep it real. You look at it and you think, spending 3 times the value of the bike is excessive. Then it's easier to hold onto more money to save. Otherwise it just gets too easy to spend too much on parts. |
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hellkat wrote: | Yeahhhh you guys have talked me into not scrapping it. Thanks for that. I didnt really want to.
Quote: | What was the issue when it was parked up? |
I can't really remember. It got stolen, we found it but the guts of the electrics were ripped out. So although it turned over when some mates tried to get it going, it just wouldn't catch.
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Ok
So first thing will be to get it running again - that will provide confidence
to move forward. For thsi you require two basic things..
1) a spark
2) working fuel system.
Start with 1).. This may require you to buy a new battery and a charger if you don't have one. You will/may need to get a consort or two to run through the wiring diagram to see what's been buggered with. and you may have to use some 'hot wires' to bypass ignition switch etc.. but is all doable.
With one proven you can move to 2)
2)For this you will almost certainly need to remove teh carbs and clean the crap out of them. Once complete re-fit and connect to an auxiliary fuel tank (20 quid amazon) to be sure of a clean supply.
Try the starter - iT should then start..
Tip - do this now before winter sets in - bikes start better in teh warm. IME ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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Honda Forza 300........(Scooter)
Deal with it.
Or my first bike back in 1979 when I was 10 years old
CZ125 ____________________ Honda Novio, Puch Grand Prix, Suzuki AP50, CZ 125, Wassell 125, Montesa 348,Honda 125TDC, Suzuki 100ER, Suzuki GSF650 Bandit, Aprillia Pegaso, Honda PCX125, Honda Forza300, BMW G310 GS, Suzuki SFV650, Honda CB500X
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1998 Honda Pacific Coast. This bike was overweight, underpowered, and wallowed through the curves when pushed hard. But it was reliable, durable, and trouble free for the 7 years/107,000 miles that I had it. After acquiring my first VFR, I became enamored with speed and performance, and sold the PC to pursue a stupid sport bike dream. What a mistake. I regret parting with my PC800. It was a good bike.
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jeffyjeff wrote: | After acquiring my first VFR, I became enamored with speed and performance, and sold the PC to pursue a stupid sport bike dream. What a mistake. |
Otoh, it was a different experience, and you learned something about what you like in bikes, so I'd say not a dead loss ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | jeffyjeff wrote: | After acquiring my first VFR, I became enamored with speed and performance, and sold the PC to pursue a stupid sport bike dream. What a mistake. |
Otoh, it was a different experience, and you learned something about what you like in bikes, so I'd say not a dead loss |
My mistake was parting with the PC before I targeted my next bike. I checked out several, but nothing really excited me enough to pull the trigger. In the end, instead of owning a good commuter and a fun, sporty VFR, I wound up with only the VFR.
True story: I found a Speed Triple 955i that interested me. Rode my VFR about an hour over the hills to see it. A cold January morning, I froze my nuts solid on the way to check out this bike. The owner was a HD guy; he had 8 Harleys in his garage and a pristine, low mile, neon green Speed Triple off to the side.
JJ:"How long have you had the bike?" HD Guy: "7-8 months, traded for it to check out Triumph."
JJ: "Why do you want to sell?" HD Guy: "Not my style."
JJ: "What brand of oil do you use and how do you check it?" HD Guy: "What?"
JJ: "Dipstick or sight glass?" HD Guy: "I don't know."
JJ: "You got a sight glass here on the lower right, let's check the oil." HD guy - silence.
JJ: "No oil showing in the sight glass, you need oil." HD Guy: "Can I use this HD 20W50 synthetic?"
JJ: "It's your bike."
It took over a litre just to bring the oil into sight on the glass. We took it on an extended test ride, HD Guy on one of his Harleys and me on the Speed Triple. The bike performed flawlessly.
Never made an offer, I was too spooked about the amount of oil it took to bring the oil to the proper level. ____________________ History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men - BOC |
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True story: I found a Speed Triple 955i that interested me...The bike performed flawlessly.
Never made an offer, I was too spooked about the amount of oil it took to bring the oil to the proper level. |
I presume that there was something you didn't like about the model too, or did you look at others? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I've found this question really difficult.
Going over the (not exhaustive) list in my profile, it's obvious I have an affinity to the muscle bikes of the 70s and 80s, because that's what was around when I was interested in changing bikes often - there was no such thing as a 'classic' then, old stuff was just old stuff and so they were cheap and accessible.
There are two bikes I remember really liking the look of - my XS1.1S was really striking, everything black, except for the gold wheels and badges, proper moody, but a bit of a lorry, although a lot better than people give them credit for.
The other was my GSX1100E, which had been tweaked - candy blue paint with grey and white stripes (similar scheme to late 350LCs) white wheels and white seat with a grey panel at the back. It also had a polished box section swing arm, fork brace, cut down mudguards, plus a Harris pipe, so it sounded the dog's danglies.
I probably wouldn't mind if somebody gave me either of those.
Having said that, I really loved my 1500 Gold Wing, no bloody good at filtering in heavy traffic, but what a great machine everywhere else, so I wouldn't say no if somebody gave me one of those either.
As to what would I spend my own money on now, well that's a different story.......... ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Shaft wrote: | XS1.1S was really striking, everything black, except for the gold wheels and badges, proper moody, but a bit of a lorry, although a lot better than people give them credit for. |
Even back then, I had a bit of a bias against all the XS range, largely because they did strike me as all being a bit porky, and lacking in performance compared to some of the competition, but I always liked the look of this particular one - the "Midnight Special" I think it was known as? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Shaft wrote: | XS1.1S was really striking, everything black, except for the gold wheels and badges, proper moody, but a bit of a lorry, although a lot better than people give them credit for. |
Even back then, I had a bit of a bias against all the XS range, largely because they did strike me as all being a bit porky, and lacking in performance compared to some of the competition, but I always liked the look of this particular one - the "Midnight Special" I think it was known as? |
The Midnight Special was the US Custom model (Tamiya did a kit of it) complete with stepped seat, peanut style tank and pull back bars, the 1.1S was the normal roadster, but everything was blacked out and it had a little nose fairing - much better looking bike IMO.
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_xs1100_sport%2081.htm
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The last post was made 2 years, 252 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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