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Max88
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Yamaha virago 535 unknown problem (possible its electrical) Reply with quote

Hello there. I own a yamaha virago 535 that has ben running grate for past cuple of years since I've owned it. But a month ago it died during my ride due to dead battery. I've had some issues with charging. Had to change my stator and regulator and still wouldn't charge with the new parts. I struggled finding the problem so i took my bike to a "friend" mechanic to take a closer look. He called me after a few hours and told me to come and pick up my bike, he fixed it by changing the regulator again. Supposedly i had a shorted battery and that killed my new regulator. He told me everything is ok and charging and that I can ride home so I did... Little did i know nothing was apparently fixed and my new battery drained and I was stranded on the highway. Long story short I got it home. Changed the battery and did some test to see if it's charging and it wasnt. Only 12.5v.. And discovered that my fuse box was getting hot. Figured it must be a bad connection so I went and bought a new fuse box and hooked it up. Tried again of it would charge the battery still nothing. After that i was a bit frustrated amd left it for the day. The nex day the bike wouldn't fire up. There is no spark on the spark plugs and my light flickers. Also im hearing the clicking nose from the front left compartment where are all of the relays and i think thats where the CDI is located. (i will put i google drive link of the video in the bottom) that clicking is is synced to my head light flashing. I have all of those relays and a new CDI as spares from my old 535 and thought it something must be fried from the bad battery so i switched it all and everything is still the same. I'm out of ideas. I would greatly appreciate all the help I can get.

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I'm sorry for my bad English and the long text. Below I will link the Google drive link for the video.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18GivBLoZ9pdVgUaJHlgpAN4UaXgCscbU/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18GivBLoZ9pdVgUaJHlgpAN4UaXgCscbU/view?usp=drivesdk
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Un-plug the HID driver first thing, see if it cures the clicking.

The clicking sounds like the flasher relay and the fact that it affects the headlight points to a bad power connection. The fuse box getting hot isn't good but it does point to the fault not being anything to do with charging since the charging circuit is not fused.

First thoughts are - bad earth on the loom or on the engine.

If you have a good copy of the wiring diagram I'll take a look at it for you but I bloody hate Yamaha wiring.
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Max88
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Un-plug the HID driver first thing, see if it cures the clicking.

The clicking sounds like the flasher relay and the fact that it affects the headlight points to a bad power connection. The fuse box getting hot isn't good but it does point to the fault not being anything to do with charging since the charging circuit is not fused.

First thoughts are - bad earth on the loom or on the engine.

If you have a good copy of the wiring diagram I'll take a look at it for you but I bloody hate Yamaha wiring.


I forgot to mention the clicking stops once press the kill switch, or pull out the "ignition" fuse.
I solved the heating up part of my fuse box by replacing it
I have seen some diagrams in the manual i just need to find them. I just don't know why all of the sudden i don't have a spark on the spark plugs. The bike was ok when i left it and the next day i couldn't start it and thats when i noticed the constant clicking noise.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the wiring diagram that I have found
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of a crap diagram innit?
small and faded colour

From what I can see the 'flasher relay' is lot more than that
as its connected to more than the flasher switch.
I suspect it's perhaps a compound device containing various
devices not just a simple relay.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 28 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a troll?
that diagram is for post 89 Viagra where the diagram shows a
'flasher relay' with 9 cables.
( in earlier diagrams this is called a relay assembly)

in the vid he holds what looks like a more conventional 3 wire device
so wtf is going on?
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Is this a troll?
that diagram is for post 89 Viagra where the diagram shows a
'flasher relay' with 9 cables.
( in earlier diagrams this is called a relay assembly)

in the vid he holds what looks like a more conventional 3 wire device
so wtf is going on?
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The thing I'm holding , looking up the numbers on it. Is the fuel pump relay.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'relay' in question is probably this tin of tricks, as found on several Yams inc my FZ750..

https://yamaha-virago.blogspot.com/2018/10/relays.html

.. it has several functions the most minor of which is flashing the indicators.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Followup, i have discovered that once I disconnect the fuel pump the relay stops clicking, still no spark. But at least I think that I narrowed it that maybe my fuel pump was shorted? Looking forward for your opinions.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Max88 wrote:
Followup, i have discovered that once I disconnect the fuel pump the relay stops clicking, still no spark. But at least I think that I narrowed it that maybe my fuel pump was shorted? Looking forward for your opinions.


Unless you're out of fuel - it clicks forever then too.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clicking is solved. The fuel pump was faulty. Still not charging the battery tho :/

I have installed the new stator and regulator/rectifier Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 29 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The battery is charged via the 20A fuse in the fuse box. Run the engine and put a volt meter on one side of the fuse then the other. If one side reads battery voltage and the other side reads charging voltage then the fuse is blown.
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