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Posted: 10:58 - 30 Jul 2021 Post subject: Kawasaki ER6-F (First big bike CONFIRMED) |
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Still in two minds on whether to get a big bike brand new on finance or buy a cheap second hand one outright in cash.
Any opinions on this bike?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202107034592646 ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
PAST: 2009 Kawasaki ER-6F. 2021 Zontes ZT-125U.
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Looks pretty good to me. They're not exactly thrilling but they're solid and reliable, enough power to "learn" big-biking and sellable enough to move on at a later date. I had an ER5 and it was a solid bike, the ER6 is supposed to be better. ____________________ TG. |
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Looks nice and clean, but you'd want to knock 500 quid off - judging by ebay prices...
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That does look to be decent value. I'd want to hear how loud the exhaust is though, as that could be deafening. I'd also want to look under the fairing and see how much corrosion etc there is.
My other half has an ER6N of 2012 vintage, and it's rather nice. It's better built than the equivalent SV650 and it goes well, it corners nicely, the brakes are OK and it's very very comfortable. The only downside is it's a weighty thing, but for my other half that's not a bad thing. She's reasonably tall and relatively strong, and is now very used to it. She doesn't make full use of the rev range of the engine a lot of the time, so a fairly grunty twin is good for her. She's smooth, safe and confident on it, despite only having ridden for a short amount of time.
It's not got that zing that something like my Street Triple has, but it's a good solid bike. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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MarJay wrote: | That does look to be decent value. I'd want to hear how loud the exhaust is though, as that could be deafening. I'd also want to look under the fairing and see how much corrosion etc there is.
My other half has an ER6N of 2012 vintage, and it's rather nice. It's better built than the equivalent SV650 and it goes well, it corners nicely, the brakes are OK and it's very very comfortable. The only downside is it's a weighty thing, but for my other half that's not a bad thing. She's reasonably tall and relatively strong, and is now very used to it. She doesn't make full use of the rev range of the engine a lot of the time, so a fairly grunty twin is good for her. She's smooth, safe and confident on it, despite only having ridden for a short amount of time.
It's not got that zing that something like my Street Triple has, but it's a good solid bike. |
I just went to the showroom and it's pretty loud. The latest MOT has an advisory note that simply said "Loud exhaust" but it still passed it's MOT. The only other advisory was that the handle bar is slightly bent but not excessively or words to those effect. When I got on the thing I never even noticed and only knew because it said it on the MOT. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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Don't know if it sheds any like on the bike in particular but here is the MOT history:
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/?_ga=2.95752596.941941382.1627651781-777682944.1627651781
EDIT: Sorry didn't realise the GOV UK links work one time only. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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In theory great advice and I think that model is absolutely better looking too but I am loathe to buying something sight-unseen. Considering everything though. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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Posted: 19:09 - 30 Jul 2021 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki ER6-F (Possible first big bike) |
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The exhaust pipe burst out the box. There was a recall on them. Not sure if still an issue.
I reckon it was due to the viby twin cyl. causing early fatigue at a poorly supported area.
Makes the exhaust loud and difficult to see as it's behind the fairing and under the engine.
Brakes are shite.
Different pads helps but standard they are a worry when making good progress.
Unless I was accustomed to riding bikes with Bette than average braking.
Very comfy bike so can be taken faaaar and wide and lots of toys to fuk with on the dash.
If it hasn't got, then a first mod is to fit a gear indicator.
Plugs into a lead under the seat. LED display mounts near the dash. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Posted: 20:45 - 30 Jul 2021 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki ER6-F (Possible first big bike) |
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If you can buy cash, I wouldn't be looking at bikes in dealers. I'd expect to be paying about 2k for a bike like this from a private seller. With not much more than 10k on the clocks. E.g.:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353591512146?hash=item5253b24c52:g:o0oAAOSwGGNguogH
The only reason to buy from dealers is if you need finance. Ok, fine. But £2k isn't THAT much in the grand scheme of things. The other reason is some sort of warranty - but you'd have to be very unlucky to buy a Japanese bike with around 10K on it that's going to need anything in the way of serious work doing. So for me a warranty is kind of a con. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Posted: 13:26 - 01 Aug 2021 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki ER6-F (Possible first big bike) |
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | If you can buy cash, I wouldn't be looking at bikes in dealers. I'd expect to be paying about 2k for a bike like this from a private seller. With not much more than 10k on the clocks. E.g.:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353591512146?hash=item5253b24c52:g:o0oAAOSwGGNguogH
The only reason to buy from dealers is if you need finance. Ok, fine. But £2k isn't THAT much in the grand scheme of things. The other reason is some sort of warranty - but you'd have to be very unlucky to buy a Japanese bike with around 10K on it that's going to need anything in the way of serious work doing. So for me a warranty is kind of a con. |
I have already worked out a credit facility with my Credit Union for £11,000.00 over 36 months at 3.9% APR. On top of that I have £2,000.00 in cash already which can increase to £4,500.00 in cash at the end of the month because of my summer bonus payment.
I can put a bike on my credit card temporarily up to £4,000.00 and then clear it at the end of the month (with the aforementioned cash).
I am desperate to get a big bike but I want to try and take a little time and weight up the options. I am still in two minds what to do, as much as I want to waddle my ass over to a Yamaha dealer and get a brand new MT-09, I am also conscious of the cost of dropping the thing and that's why I am exploring cheap second hand bikes.
Decisions, decisions.
I did like that ER6-F when I went to see it though, my only niggle that the pegs are about an inch too high for my comfort but I reckon an aftermarket adjustable rear-set would solve that.
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Posted: 15:42 - 01 Aug 2021 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki ER6-F (Possible first big bike) |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | If you can buy cash, I wouldn't be looking at bikes in dealers. I'd expect to be paying about 2k for a bike like this from a private seller. With not much more than 10k on the clocks. E.g.:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353591512146?hash=item5253b24c52:g:o0oAAOSwGGNguogH
The only reason to buy from dealers is if you need finance. Ok, fine. But £2k isn't THAT much in the grand scheme of things. The other reason is some sort of warranty - but you'd have to be very unlucky to buy a Japanese bike with around 10K on it that's going to need anything in the way of serious work doing. So for me a warranty is kind of a con. |
I have already worked out a credit facility with my Credit Union for £11,000.00 over 36 months at 3.9% APR. On top of that I have £2,000.00 in cash already which can increase to £4,500.00 in cash at the end of the month because of my summer bonus payment.
I can put a bike on my credit card temporarily up to £4,000.00 and then clear it at the end of the month (with the aforementioned cash).
I am desperate to get a big bike but I want to try and take a little time and weight up the options. I am still in two minds what to do, as much as I want to waddle my ass over to a Yamaha dealer and get a brand new MT-09, I am also conscious of the cost of dropping the thing and that's why I am exploring cheap second hand bikes.
Decisions, decisions.
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Soz not following this - are these reasons for buying from a dealer or not?
I'm absolutely all for taking a little time - in fact, a lot of time. But for me the reason to take time would be to wait for a bike to come up within 30 miles offered by a private seller that I could schlep out to tyre kick. I'd be looking for ER6s, SV650s, Gladius, Hornets, CB500s, possibly even Bandit 6s.10-15k on them, £1750 price region. Put 5k on one of these to properly get your big bike eye in, punt it on for similar money, get the bike you feel a bit of lust for. Sh1t like that. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Posted: 16:08 - 01 Aug 2021 Post subject: Re: Kawasaki ER6-F (Possible first big bike) |
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[quote="trevor saxe-coburg”]Soz not following this - are these reasons for buying from a dealer or not?
I'm absolutely all for taking a little time - in fact, a lot of time. But for me the reason to take time would be to wait for a bike to come up within 30 miles offered by a private seller that I could schlep out to tyre kick. I'd be looking for ER6s, SV650s, Gladius, Hornets, CB500s, possibly even Bandit 6s.10-15k on them, £1750 price region. Put 5k on one of these to properly get your big bike eye in, punt it on for similar money, get the bike you feel a bit of lust for. Sh1t like that.[
Sorry I should have made it more clear. The reason I was using a dealer is because in a non-finance deal I am hard-capped to a budget of £4,500 (and it would initially be on a credit card) so I can’t do a literal cash in hand private sale until I get paid at the end of the month. I am impatient so might not be able to hold out a month.
Using finance I have a loan from my credit union available with £2000 from me additionally if needed.
At present if I want to buy anything over £2000 I need to use a dealer unless a private seller somehow can accept a credit card. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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For a first "big bike" (although these days a 650 barely counts as middleweight) I'd go for something cheap and convenient to source. Rag it for a year and then get the bike you really want
There's also something to be said for pre-loved bikes. I got my Rebel factory fresh and always felt a bit guilty if it got dirty, I'd certainly be horrified if I scuffed it let alone dropped it. But the XSR... any marks you may notice were there when I got it! Like a nice pair of shoes someone else has broken in ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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