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Ribenapigeon wrote: | RhynoCZ wrote: | They played us like a damn fiddle. |
They being? I would say not the Afghans but in reality the 'Muricans. Its high time we stopped indulging the spoilt obese bastard child of old Europe and told it to grow up get a job and look after itself. |
It was a quote from the ''Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain'' game, that takes place in Afghanistan.
Anyway, it is quite without a doubt that 'merican activities in the middle east lead to birth of many terrorist groups and civil wars. Everything started in the 30's when US of A got hungry for oil. IIRC 'mericans had a local contractor named Mohamed Bin Laden who built all the infrastructure for them, and also got filthy rich doing so. By the way, one of his kids, Osama, didn't feel good about his family supporting 'mericans and definitely not about his own country (kingdom?) supporting 'mericans, so he used the family money to do what? To fight the invaders, mainly US of A and USSR in Afghanistan (Do you remember that Rambo film?). For whatever reason, he fought back USSR in Afghanistan, or let's say USSR gave up after 10 years or so. He also could indoctrinate many people as he fought in Afghanistan agains the USSR, and he was filthy rich, family money, aaaand since it was the Cold War, US of A supported Osama with money and weapons to fight back the USSR. When Osama won in Afghanistan, he went back home to indoctrinate even more people now to fight against the US of A and other invaders (Israel?). It was at that moment Al Qaeda was born. Not everyone in the middle east was happy with that though, Saudi Arabia and other countries were getting wealthier and wealthier from selling oil to the world and their main customer being US of A. Hussein invading Kuwait also lead to more military presence of US of A and Osama got even more pissed, ... long story short, 9/11.
That being said, 'mericans had/have allies (NATO) and they do help each other in all sorts of ways. The very first time I've heard about NATO was the democractic bombing of Kosovo (that's how they talked about this in Czech rep. at that time).
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Interfering in Afghanistan has always failed. Always.
The only way it will change is if they decide they want it to change.
I was however impressed when one of the warlords went in with the government forces. If the Afghan people decide they no longer want the Taliban, the Taliban will go, even if it takes another 20 years of war by attrition. They need to decide that for themselves and decide if they actually want outside help to make it happen. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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British colonialism was always the best thing for the world.
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | British colonialism was always the best thing for the world.
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | Polarbear wrote: |
You mean if we had colonised them properly. Set up a government that enforced laws and civilised behaviour, good idea! I'm sure we would be admired and exalted by our present left wing hand wringers for doing colonial things |
No, that's never happened, running a colony is not the same as building an independent democratic state. |
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Yanks have a tanker up over southern Afghanistan SHELL26 https://fr24.com/SHELL26/28cbacc4
And a Navy Hercules heading in around Kandahar |
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
But democracy is what India went with after we left, so they must have liked something about it. |
Give it up im still not taking the bait. |
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I don't know that transport and heavy lift helicopters will ever be particularly survivable in a combat zone. Doesn't mean they're no good or have no use. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stinkwheel wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I don't know that transport and heavy lift helicopters will ever be particularly survivable in a combat zone. Doesn't mean they're no good or have no use. |
Sure, but I think chinooks in particular have more than their share of issues. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 305 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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