Extinction Rebellion or how not to win an argument

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Likely it’s a response to this 6 months ago;

[Easy-X]

So good idea, bad implementation. Shock, horror! That's never happened before in the history of governance therefore Boris is a Climate Denier! OMG I'm so upset I'm gonna tweet at my local MP!!!

Oh well, I suppose we can grudgingly accept that Insulate Britain has sparked a discussion... but they've also sparked a desire to run over protesters before the police turn up (3 minute window, guys, #JustSayin')
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Easy-X]

[Ste]

Think how stupid the average person is and then consider the fact that half the population are even stupider.

For insulating houses and all other buildings we could have tax payer funded subsidies with multiple layers of tax payer funded bureaucracy but surely there must be more cost efficient ways of doing it.

[Easy-X]

Something simple like "are you in council tax band F or lower? have free money for loft insulation!"

The problem comes with the checks & balances. Do we have spot checks to see the work's been adequately completed? Or instead do we draw up a list of accredited installers? Someone always figures out a scam and then the bureaucracy to counteract these edge cases makes the whole system unwieldy and inefficient

Probably better to spend the money on a public information campaign: "did you know you could reduce your energy bills by £300 per year just through loft insulation!" and leave ppl to it.
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Easy-X]

Yes, local councils could do more but after looking into Canadian politics (they have an election coming up) I'm of the opinion we'd have to totally rethink how they're funded.

The problem with power is ppl are loathed to give it up and (a suggestion in Canada) giving something like VAT to the local authority couldn't happen unless a nuke took out No.11 Downing Street along with all associated civil servants. They will say if they just give money to local authorities to organise things that some do it well and some fuck it up. Of course the Exchequer will frame it that all the Labour run councils are the worst

I dunno where I'm going with this but suffice to say governance of a country (or a county) is too important to be left to politicians to fuck up
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[thx1138]

The green homes grant was a disaster from start to fiinish, and it seemed that the left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

[Ribenapigeon]

[Ribenapigeon]

[Easy-X]

When it comes right down to it what can central government do better than local government? Defence, foreign affairs and... I'm struggling now
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

What faith you have in local politicians!

Anyhow, they enact government policy, thus it’s basically well-paid admin at the senior levels.

[Ribenapigeon]

[Ste]

Unwashed vegans sit in the road again.

Forty-one people have been arrested after climate activists held fresh motorway protests.

Insulate Britain blocked the anti-clockwise exit slip road at junction 18, Chorleywood, Herts, on Monday.

A separate protest took place near junction four (Stanborough Interchange) of the A1(M), near Hatfield.

A third incident saw Kent Police prevent protesters from gaining access to the M25 carriageway at junction 1a, the Dartford River Crossing.

The force said officers attended at 08:30 BST and arrested 12 people on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.

Hertfordshire Police said 13 people were arrested at the M25 and 16 at the A1(M).

The force said officers had been called to the M25 at 08:12 BST and to the A1(M) protest just minutes later.

Several people at both protests had been glued to the carriageway.

Highways England's traffic map currently shows no delays due to protests on the M25 or A1(M).

Ch Supt Nick Caveney said: "Protesters have made it clear that they intend to continue causing disruption.

"Not only is purposely blocking a highway incredibly dangerous, it also affects thousands of members of the public who are stuck in delays as a result."

He said the force had "robust "plans in place to minimise disruption and officers had been on the scene "within minutes".

In a tweet, Insulate Britain, which is calling for government action on home insulation, said blue paint had also been poured on to the road during the protest at the M25, "leading to further disruption".

One of the protesters, who did not want to be named, told BBC Three Counties Radio the blockade had been about "the millions of lives we are going to lose not just here, but everywhere, if we don't do anything".

He said: "The scale of what is coming with the climate crisis forces us to take action.

"The measures are disruptive and they unfortunately have to be. This is no fun doing this. We are running rapidly out of time.

"We are stepping up because the government is critically failing."

He said further blockades were planned and that protesters were willing to go to prison to make their point.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-58622088



They're willing to go to prison to make their point so we should go with that idea. I'm sure they'll be happy making their point from Guantanamo Bay and it would discourage other idiots from thinking it's clever to glue themselves to any road.

[arry]

Pouring paint all over the road. How environmentally friendly

[Ayrton]

I cant even understand what they are protesting about. I had my house insulated and solar panels fitted under some government scheme, so the government seems to be doing a decent job. The problem is most people don't apply for the schemes, I think I was the only one on my road that did it.

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[arry]

[Ste]

[arry]

[Ayrton]

[Easy-X]

Stunning and brave to glue yourself to the tarmac but ring the police beforehand to make sure they stop all the traffic for you. "Lions led by donkeys" springs to mind

Here's hoping one force goes "fuck it, I'm finishing my cup of tea first" and the blue paint is replaced by a red smear.
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[Ste]