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Posted: 18:41 - 01 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Another year, another MOT, another pass.
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Posted: 00:21 - 05 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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After an unintentionally too long sojourn and with a lot of help from a mate who put himself out for no more than a tea and a burger, my 650 Katana is in my garage.
I think the last time I rode it was my attempt to do the May Day run to Hastings in 2014 - I got as far as Locks Bottom, but I was recovering from a severe back issue and I realised I wasn't up to making the whole trip.
It was looking a bit sorry for itself, but after a quick pressure wash, I'm thinking that getting it back on the road might be reasonably straightforward - possible SnT incoming. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
20 RE Interceptor, 83 Z1100A3, 83 GS650 Katana
WooHoo, I'm a Man Point Millionaire! https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=234035 |
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Fettling the Street Triple. Fitted a set of standard mirrors and removed the bar end ones (though I did go for a ride with both on looking like a crappy quadrophenia tribute). The bar end mirrors actually were better than I expected, but the standard ones are better again and I prefer the look. Also cut the excess off the sheepskin I'm using on the VFR800 and used it to make a tiny butt pad for the Street Triple. Works too, but looks as ridiculous as you'd expect... ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Posted: 20:22 - 08 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Had a look at wiring up an old T140 with a new loom. Need to work in an electronic ignition TBH more an excuse to get out in the sunshine
Must have been sending out some wiring telepathy today as the grandson of a friend of mine turned up with some LED headlamps for his hot hatch and I got his halos working. Very important stuff
Only spent about 5 mins on my own bike, more on that elsewhere in the forum... ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 23:06 - 08 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Fitted a new reg/rec to the ZX6R. It’s in front of the shock but since that’s now an Ohlins the reservoir was in the way and the shock had to come out. I had to snip a cable tie to release the reg/rec plug. Later the aborted test ride revealed I’d also snipped the fuel pump lead as well. Berk! Gloomy garage, myopic old git. I’ve soldered and taped the lead now.
The old reg/rec seemed to be working ok (with some reservations) but was replaced as a last resort attempt to fix the parasitic drain I’ve mentioned before. However the motor started more promptly and felt smoother. Placebo effect maybe.
Edit: it was the placebo effect.
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"Gonna treat the Kwacker to a new chain & sprocket set..."
Okay, so how did we get here?
https://i.imgur.com/UzNECPU.jpg?1
That's the transmission cover off from behind the front sprocket Seems someone back in the mists of time had tapped the seal in a bit too far so we found this tied round the crank output shaft...
https://i.imgur.com/pkU0XbX.jpg?2
Errrr.... okay! Needless to say there was a bit of an oil leak There's nothing actually wrong with the seal so that can go back in correctly but the tricky bit is the gasket. Resorted to cutting one from scratch as we could only turn up gaskets sold in the USA ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 00:39 - 10 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Striple 40k miles Odo, rolled it back with disc lock on (twice in 18 months).
Another bent disc and this time the plastic shroud on the lock broke off triggering the anti-tamper pin to lock in place regardless of key use.
Hacksaw took about 7 mins to cut the pin, but damage was done. Another ebay special required.
Really must go back to putting old sock on wing mirror when lock attached.
Front discs were down to 2.87mm, but I'd got some ebay specials last winter and meant to fit them sooner.
I also meant to do the valves clearances last winter, but it was bang on middle last time and hadn't moved in previous 12k so left it...
Engine management light came on same time as ABS light stuck on after bent disc.
Bike had become hesitant to re-start when hot, so maybe pushing that valve check wasn't a good idea.
Engine had become louder when hot too, cracked headers.... Leaking header gasket....
Right. Garage time.
New Koyos up front (replaced the rears 6 months ago)
https://i.imgur.com/7rasRRC.jpg
Ebay disc specials, had them a year, fitted a treat
https://i.imgur.com/yydeRtR.jpg
Wrong model, non-ABS discs
Brand new EBC discs plus new SBS pads (anyone want any mk1 Striple discs?).
https://i.imgur.com/x2WFPXI.jpg
Airbox cleaned up
https://i.imgur.com/HIlZE31.jpg
New filter
https://i.imgur.com/n3Qx8KB.jpg
Rad got a proper clean. Tried soaking in Muc-off + blasting with hose, but there was this central 2-3 inch line of crud in the fins that was there before I bought a rad guard....so about 7 years ago.
In the end, I use a sowing needle to individually dig out each fin. Couple of hours later and hose was washing through form both sides much better.
https://i.imgur.com/LzlkxoC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bArADS0.jpg
Having struggled in the past for days with dremel, plusgas, blowtorch, stud extractors etc trying to remove corroded remains of nuts + studs from a 32k 14 year old bike. I figure £15 on studs and nuts every 5 years is money well spent. Plus should make exhaust valve check easier.
Cyl 1 (RHS) looks to have been leaking.
https://i.imgur.com/yCs6SdZ.jpg
They were in fairly good nick, but one had corroded threads enough to stop the nut from moving. And because of the raised lip the other side, locked itself to the headers.
Used a hacksaw to cut down to the bolts core, then molegrips + socket to twist the bolt apart after stud extractor failed + not enough room for two nuts together method.
https://i.imgur.com/ZX7E8cy.jpg
New studs + gaskets
https://i.imgur.com/woUI7yp.jpg
Headers + downpipes + cat got a VHT paint treatment. Did think about using Harpic to shine up the stainless, but decided winter would be slightly better defended with a can of paint.
Leak tested the headers before commencing to make sure it was worth the effort.
https://i.imgur.com/ta9V6i5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pxVwY1A.jpg
Lastly (so far) the ebay special rear disc + pulse plate. + new Goldfren pads......except when I went to the RHS Rear parts bin, the spring clip was missing. I must have thrown it out with oily newspaper
No problem, get one on ebay......there are none. OK, fine, get one from Triumph then....can't, its £380 for the caliper.
£35 caliper off ebay, just for the spring clip
But I got a spare caliper, piston, ABS sensor. Even the included original pads had 70% meat left.
https://i.imgur.com/jnXMDES.jpg
So next is valve check + probably re-shim. New plugs. Then back together and hopefully it pans out ok. |
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Posted: 20:00 - 10 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Probably the cleanest this area's been since new:
https://i.imgur.com/GGduack.jpg?1
As per my previous post that main seal had been tapped through till it was just rattling about at the back. Chain & sprockets turned up too late to fit today and the Kempton Autojumble is on tomorrow so probably Sunday to finish off.
Not sure it makes any odds but OEM is 15T/33T 630 chain and what was sent (apparently an "upgrade kit") is 18T/44T 530 chain. Ratios wise that's pretty close - maybe a hair more on the torquey side - so shouldn't be a problem? The sprockets do obviously fit on the spline/bolt-pattern. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 00:10 - 12 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Striple valve check
https://i.imgur.com/N1Lfex1.jpg
Lift out + cleaned up the SAI / PAIR system
https://i.imgur.com/GazSizq.jpg
And whats this that fell out the cover, looks to be part of reed valve
https://i.imgur.com/6M2vyOw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6LV87da.jpg
Yep. Google turned up a dozen posts from '13-'16 owners whos reed valves snapped on Cylinder 1 within 24k miles (mine went around 34k I think). Including one guys bike where metal went missing and cam was damaged....allegedly.
Every one reported difficulty re-starting hot engines. I thought it was valve clearance issue, but here we go, it could well be just the SAI having shat itself.
Manual says to "inspect" which I sort of did every 12k, cotton buds + WD40. But never actually removed the modules and dismantled + cleaned thoroughly. Didn't realise they popped out fairly easily.
I just made sure the edges were clean and they opened / closed ok.
https://i.imgur.com/cU3tiJs.jpg
As can be seen by the shite that was underneath
https://i.imgur.com/rkYN08O.jpg
On plus side, break looks clean. And maybe I won't need to re-shim valves after all
https://i.imgur.com/QleZu9J.jpg
So £60 for new reed valves (that presumably could snap again at some point), or £60 for blank-off plates + plug for ECU + 02 sensor removal + plug for ECU. And can discard the whole faffy SAI + solonoid and not think about it again. Blank-offs it is.
Might lose a bit of mpg, but as long as it runs ok and not drastically different, think its worth it, shall see.
Mk2 can be fussy with TuneECU which should allow SAI and O2 to be disabled via phone + OBD2. But I feel happier having a physical wiring loom plug (+ the plates).
Plugs looked warn, but ok after 14k
https://i.imgur.com/q5r0TSG.jpg
Onto valves. Intakes were still bang in middle of spec. Shifted 0.02 in 14k miles. Spec:
IN 0.10 - 0.20
EX 0.325 - 0.375
https://i.imgur.com/ov3Mnxb.jpg
Did find this though. Intake lobe appears to have taken a beating. Not great.
Really not sure how/when either.
First check at 11k had it at 0.10 (tight end of spec). Shimmed to 0.16
second check at 24k had it at 0.15
Current check at 38k has it still at 0.15
Each time I brush over 50/50 molly grease + oil mix over lobes (and buckets if cams out, which they were last time).
I can't believe I didn't notice it before, but how has it happened on just 1 lobe, that at no point went out to spec?
https://i.imgur.com/Mri6Djt.jpg
But the exhaust valves. Wow. They appear to have shifted alot!
Again, double checked readings with two different sets and brands of gauges.
Spec EX 0.325 - 0.375
And I have two at 0.2, two at 0.25, one at 0.28 and one at 0.30
All well out of spec. Cams out it is then. Technically only one, but will pull the chain out and measure it for wear.
Its suspicious that the inlets have barely moved 0.2 in 14k, but the exhaust have suddenly shortened up circa 0.15 with a huge range of variances.
The big difference this time, is I dropped the rad. Making access to EX side much easier. So maybe just error in getting values previously. But I use three sets of gauges and rotate each cyl twice. But logically, it must likely be user error.
Anyway. Hopefully re-shim tomorrow and check chain for stretch. |
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I got an old junker MTB for the wife I thought I'd build up, £10 from the local recycling centre. Apparently the original crankset was made of marzipan as both arms were bent in so first job was to replace. On cheap bikes they just have the things jammed on a square taper so you need a puller tool and ofc the threads on one of the arms just dissolved under the slightest pressure. As I said: marzipan
"Fuck, now what?" And then I thought of of the recent discussions about exhaust studs so I blasted it with a MAPP torch and just whacked it with chisel & hammer, popped straight off... which was nice ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 14:33 - 14 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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KTM MOT pass, rear tyre was almost flat though. Pumped it up, got home, checked for leaks with soapy water including the valve. Nothing.
Tyre has stayed up since. Nobody had interfered with the bike. I fitted the tyre and both beads popped in.
Valve core was tight, and also screwed to the rim nicely.
Weird.
CBR front tyre took a 10g tyre balancing weight off and it felt better, took another 5g off but no chance to re-test. Put a nut and bolt in the mudguard the old ones vibrated loose.
CBR rear tyre arrived, no chance that'll be going on tonight with a brand new Xbox sitting there. ____________________
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Posted: 23:20 - 14 Sep 2021 Post subject: |
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Got the MZ ES250 to start after the engine rebuild.
Had to use a drill in the rear sprocket whilst the engine was in top (4th) and a ton of petrol came out the spark plug, which I put down to an odd float valve overflowing which I had since rectified.
Just been bolting stuff back onto it like the rear brake arms and foot rests etc etc. knackered.
Engine does take awhile to return to idle and seems like it has an air leak but I can't detect it. It is actually jetted slightly richer, and what's more the needle does look like it has had the tip chipped off so it should be running way rich. Will have to think about this. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (bored to 295cc) - 38k, 1990 MZ ETZ251 - 49k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17k. |
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Day 1 of the XSR major service.
Changed oil, coolant, brake fluid. All looked okay - no "panning for gold" with the oil, no oil in the coolant - brake fluid was something like a treacle colour so well worth doing. Did a visual inspection of pipes and cables, etc. noted brake pad thickness. Chain slack, clutch & throttle play all within spec. Now just need to get the tank off to swap the plugs and air filter.
As far as consumables are concerned a very easy bike to work on. Can't see how Yamaha could have made it any easier beyond being able to trigger the ABS test mode without a diagnostic tool. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Fancied a light weight mid range street bike, lots of shopping around and I bought an X plate 2000 Kawasaki ER5 with a genuine 2300 miles, (not even run in and its got the key of the door).
Seller put it through the workshop for service, new Bridgestones and carb clean.
I have started at the front end, wheel and disc off, clean rust off disc, jenolite and re-assemble with loads of lube, moving back through the bike, taking bits off, cleaning and lubing, all seems ok.
I have read the voltage regulators are crap and looking at fitting a MOSFET, anybody like to comment on this?
It is a nice light weight little bike, goes well and insurance with Bennets is less than £100 fully comp. ____________________ Alcohol doesn't solve problems, but neither does milk |
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Well I put some 20-50 in the Snarley and fired it up, so I rode it up to St Albans to collect my mate, Mad Liz on her Triumph 955.
Forgot to put some air in the tyres. *note to self
Then Liz and I rode to Newport Pagnell, where we were supposed to be going to an NCC custom bike show.
So we get off at Newport Pagnell and Liz goes the wrong way, and I straddle the junction awaiting her return. When she returns, I follow some likely-looking chaps into the correct turning, but she goes up the road and doesn't arrive behind me.
So I go back, and she has a dead bike, won't start.
Off I go back to the chaps in the car park to ask for some heroic help from a prospect in pushing her bike round and having a look at it
(strange thinks I, not a lot of bikes here)
The hangaround wanders off and gets her and the bike (now working) back into the carpark, apparently just dodgy kickstand wiring.
But it turns out that the people running the rally had some mad-arse organisational plans, which meant they weren't going to be there till the band was on (7.30) and then the custom show was in the morning - but we didn't want to wait that long, we thought it would already be rocking and rolling by mid-Saturday afternoon. And I only really go to NCC dos for the custom show, cos there's always something cool to look at.
So we had a few drinks with the chaps (a local MC out of a day trip), and members of the organising club show up to start setting up. Liz recognises one as a long lost friend and I sit back down, hoping for another drink
But that was not to be, so we left after about two hours - happy girlies: her having reconnected with an old mate, and me having flirted with some chaps. Easily pleased, us.
Then I stayed at hers and we ate curry, drank wine, and went out this morning antiques shopping, chatting up dogs, and eating waffles in a very middle class ladies-who-brunch kind of way.
Then I rode home back down the M25/M11, and got just a little bit wet (just damp knees) and the bike ticked quietly for an hour or two while I had a kebab before I covered it up.
Now its raining.
I didn't intend what I actually meant to do (socialise with the NCC and perve on their bikes)
But I had a great time, and I missed the rain, that's all that matters.
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Over the last 5 days, I have been removing the 5 years of commuting corrosion/crud from my beloved Scoot.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 206 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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