Apple: Don't attatch your iphone to motorbike handlebars

[Vracktal]

https://gizmodo.com/apple-don-t-attach-your-iphone-to-motorcycles-mopeds-1847660042

Apple recently released a report suggesting mounting their newer phones to the handlebars on some motorbikes is likely to kill the camera due to high-frequency vibrations.

Would have been useful to know a year or so ago before the camera autofocus on my iPhone shit the bed, probably from using it as a satnav for long rides. :/
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[arry]

I seem to recall Quadlock had issues with that in the past and decided to do something about it:
https://www.quadlockcase.com/blogs/news/introducing-the-vibration-dampener

[Hong Kong Phooey]

Not just apple, any mechanically stabilised lenses (OIS) are susceptible, e.g. Google Pixel 3 & 4, Nexus 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 9, S10.

Dropping a phone can also damage this mechanism.

I use my old screen damaged S7 mounted on the yoke when I need to see directions, otherwise I'll just use the phone in my pocket connected to a BT headset for voice only navigation.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

I have a Quadlock and an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I got the vibration dampener and my camera still works fine after thousands of miles.
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[ThatDippyTwat]

As above, any OIS gets issues with hard mounting. I too use an old phone (One+ 5T) for satnav duties.
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[Freddyfruitba...]

What software does everyone use for bike navigation by phone?

I use a dedicated Garmin device on my own bike, but last week had a day out on a courtesy/test-ride bike (an S1000XR) while my own was being serviced, and decided I'd use Google Maps to plot a nice circular route around North Wales, and navigate that using my phone. Was a shambles, because every time it came to a waypoint, it just stopped and asked me if I wanted to carry in to the next one or not. It would have been fine for a straightforward linear A-B route by the optimum path, but that's how I use satnav in the car, not on the bike.

So, am interested to know for next time.
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[Hong Kong Phooey]

I use Waze, had the same issue in Google maps, but I can dismiss it when it's mounted to the top yoke as my gloves are touch screen enabled.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[A100man]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[A100man]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[t121anf]

[Mountain_Man86]

Has anyone used those anti-vibration mounts for their phones? Do they work to the extent that the phone's camera survives?

Brands like SP Connect sell them but its an expensive risk to take if they don't work.

[matelot]

[xX-Alex-Xx]

I keep my phone in my pocket. There's enough flab there to damp any vibration from the bike.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[slowasyoulike]

Each to their own and all that, but I can't see the attraction of paying the thick end of a grand for a phone, and then attaching it to the handlebars of a motorcycle. Come to think of it I can't think of the attraction of paying a grand for a phone full stop. I have a £100 Chinese handset which has handled the job of being a telephone admirably for the last few years, and is showing no signs of carking it.

About five years ago I scored a bag of sat navs from the local hospice shop for a fiver, figuring that if I attached them via one of those brake fluid reservoir clip mounts they'd do fine. Any that I lost due to either water ingress or falling off could be classed as wear and tear at that price.

One fell off - when I rode through the world's biggest pothole in the pissing rain - but the second is still going, having been thoroughly doused on several occasions to no ill effect. The out-of-date maps have never seen me lost either, even if a few newly-laid by passes have seen me allegedly riding through a field.

I just can't help feeling that there are better things to be spending that sort of money on...

[Barnoe]

I have a Samsung S21 Ultra and use Quadlock with the antivibration mount.
Done thousands of miles without problems so far......

Well apart from charging my phone in heavy rain... my phone didnt like it and set an alarm off (moisture in Charging socket) i thought the noise was coming from the bike at first.
So much for the phone being waterproof :/

i didn't have any issues with my previous Samsung on this mount either.
Its not the cheapest mount to buy, but its really good.
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[Polarbear]

[Mountain_Man86]

Thanks for all the replies everyone.

Re spending so much on a phone. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max, which admittedly was the most expensive phone I had, and still have, ever bought. It is much more than just a phone however. The camera is excellent which means when i am out with my family and young son, I can take lovely photos which are good enough to print out and keep on my work desk. My company uses Apple products exclusively so an iPhone is a no brainer from that perspective over android devices. I therefore use it for business, which means emails, internet etc is very useful. Of course, cheaper phones will handle emails etc, but the camera is not something cheaper phones do as well.

The other thing I always consider when buying anything expensive (including motorbikes) is that the true cost is only the difference between what you pay, and what you sell it for. So my phone at £1199 will likely sell next year for around £400 - £500 second hand after using it daily for over 3 years. Therefore its real cost to me is actually £699. Over 3+ years, that makes the case only £233 per year. For the functionality it provides me, that is a yearly price worth paying in my opinion. However, I do accept it's a high initial outlay.

Re: mounts, I wonder which is better, Quadlock or SP Connect? Both seem to have good reviews.

I've recently come across the Beeline GPS navigation unit which looks smart. Very simple with great battery life and connects via your phone on bluetooth. However, its more expensive than just buying the Quadlock or SP Connect system and is yet another gadget that needs charging eventually. Why is life always full of so many decisions!?

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Mountain_Man86]

[Ste]

[Mountain_Man86]

This looks like a pretty snazzy phone mount from Peak Design.. shipping late 2021 I believe.

https://www.peakdesign.com/products/motorcycle-bar-mount

Just a shame they don't include much detail about their alleged 'best in class vibration reduction'. Not cheap though.. perhaps Quadlock is still the best route based on others recommendations.