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spongefinger
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Hi all,



Thought I'd just pop a post on here for people who may be thinking of getting into biking and were wondering about cost. I have listed my expense below from starting from having nothing.



CBT - £69 from Groupon ( although I believe cost is around £130)



DAS - £725 plus £100 for mod 1 retake and extra training.



Helmet - £50 from friend

Jacket - RST from XLmoto reduced to clear £59

Gloves - £25 ARMR Moto Ikedo from the sportsbikeshop

Trousers - £55 Spada Milan-Tex from the sportsbikeshop

Boots - Course Shorties £44 half price sale XLmoto



Bike - 2000 Hornet £1300

Tax - £65

Insurance -£200

Disc Lock - £35



Total £2827. ( If my maths is right )
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

+£23 for theory test
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spongefinger
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pbt wrote:
+£23 for theory test


Oh yeah totally forgot about that !
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

be interesting to know how many sessions you had cos £725 seems pretty good going sfaicr

pics of bike be nice too
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Cost bike Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
be interesting to know how many sessions you had cos £725 seems pretty good going sfaicr

pics of bike be nice too


Price list from the school I used and bike.
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spongefinger
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Prices Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
be interesting to know how many sessions you had cos £725 seems pretty good going sfaicr

pics of bike be nice too


Prices - https://www.passbike.co.uk/book-your-full-licence-course
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 25 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

End user experience/prices may vary Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 27 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

spongefinger wrote:
Helmet - £50 from friend

Only comment is about buying a 2nd hand helmet. If you 100% know its history then perhaps it's ok (perhaps), but otherwise, damage can often be invisible from the outside and its pretty important that its 100% perfect!

Depends how much you value you head but that's one item i'd never buy 2nd hand personally.
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 27 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Mountain_Man86 wrote:
spongefinger wrote:
Helmet - £50 from friend

Only comment is about buying a 2nd hand helmet. If you 100% know its history then perhaps it's ok (perhaps), but otherwise, damage can often be invisible from the outside and its pretty important that its 100% perfect!

Depends how much you value you head but that's one item i'd never buy 2nd hand personally.


The thing with that is you can by a decently useful Box BX-1 lid for £40 and they score really well on the SHARP test (not the be-all-and-end-all, but at least it's had some safety testing).
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 27 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Mountain_Man86 wrote:
spongefinger wrote:
Helmet - £50 from friend

Only comment is about buying a 2nd hand helmet. If you 100% know its history then perhaps it's ok (perhaps), but otherwise, damage can often be invisible from the outside and its pretty important that its 100% perfect!

Depends how much you value you head but that's one item i'd never buy 2nd hand personally.


Yeah I'd never buy one from a unknown source. My friend is a bit of a gear hoarder and buys things on a whim, he had only worn it twice and decided he didn't like it.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 28 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed on the helmet comment. Other thing is the OP must live in a very low crime area, or inside a fortress, as I'd not consider a cheap disc-lock sufficient as my sole means of security. For most, I'd budget £500 for a half decent chain, anchor and disc-lock. Definitely an investment too; really really solid security is likely to deter and last you many years, whereas average security is likely to be attacked and naff security removed completely, with both of the latter two meaning you're likely to have to replace it (and probably replace the bike too).
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spongefinger
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 28 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:
Agreed on the helmet comment. Other thing is the OP must live in a very low crime area, or inside a fortress, as I'd not consider a cheap disc-lock sufficient as my sole means of security. For most, I'd budget £500 for a half decent chain, anchor and disc-lock. Definitely an investment too; really really solid security is likely to deter and last you many years, whereas average security is likely to be attacked and naff security removed completely, with both of the latter two meaning you're likely to have to replace it (and probably replace the bike too).


I believe I do. A guy down my road owns a cb500x. He only uses a disc Lock and his bike is kept on his front drive never been touched. Mine is kept behind a 7 ft gate that has 3 locks (one combination). Also I have a dog that goes absolutely bananas if anyone they don't know comes into the garden and she sleeps by the back door so pretty difficult to sneak around out there at night !
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 28 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy round here parked his cb500x just at the end of the road. Next morning there was three of them there.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 29 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Mountain_Man86 wrote:
damage can often be invisible from the outside


Can it? In what way? I've heard this too but more so when fibreglass helmets were more popular in the 80s. Genuinely interested to know current thinking on this .
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 29 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Mountain_Man86 wrote:
damage can often be invisible from the outside


Can it? In what way? I've heard this too but more so when fibreglass helmets were more popular in the 80s. Genuinely interested to know current thinking on this .


Would sir like his helmet inspected?

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-tech/motorbike-helmet-scan-damage-safety-check/
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 30 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

for what its worth, here is an article from a few years back. A California motorcycle publication (now defunct) bashed up a bunch of old helmets to ascertain their effectiveness. I donated a 20 year old HJC helmet to the cause. An interesting read that will probably reinforce your notions regarding helmet longevity.
https://www.citybike.com/stories/motorcycle-helmet-testing/
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 30 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Keithy wrote:


Rather!

Hmm opening paragraph does specify 'composite fibre shell' though..
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 30 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

Keithy wrote:


So I also checked Companies House for more details of 'the Helmet Inspection Company' and I noticed the Chief Operating Officer is one Ms H Kat..
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 30 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: My cost of getting into biking. Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Mountain_Man86 wrote:
damage can often be invisible from the outside


Can it? In what way? I've heard this too but more so when fibreglass helmets were more popular in the 80s. Genuinely interested to know current thinking on this .


It's more to do with the possibility of hairline cracks forming that aren't obvious or visible upon ordinary visual inspection. Those hairline cracks could be the source of failure in an accident. At least that's my understanding of it. I'm not a scientist by any means but in my opinion, it's better to be safe than sorry. I rather value my head Cool

Personally, I treat my helmet very carefully.. wrap it up every night before going to bed so its nice and cosy. Laughing

Also, always remember to 'tortoise shell' your lid... stops it rolling away Laughing .
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 03 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible for the lid to take a knock which compresses it's internals, and the outer shell pops back into its original shape. This compromises how effective the internals are, but you can't tell by looking at the actual helmet.

Apparently.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 08 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid similar prices back in 2003, except my DAS was only a couple of lessons then test, so probably £500 cheaper in total. Consider that was 18 years ago, and I'm a right tight northern bastard, I think OP has done pretty well in keeping the cost down while having suitable kit.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 08 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not going to include the bike that I bought because it was entirely optional, and in retrospect, the guys here that said not to buy a 125 and just do the DAS were absolutely correct.

TRAINING AND TEST COSTS:

Compulsory Basic Training = £150.00,
Direct Access Scheme Training = £799.00,
Re-Test and Bike Hire for MOD 1 = £125.00,
Motorcycle Theory Test = £23.00.

SUB-TOTAL FOR TRAINING AND TEST COSTS = £1,097.00.


INITIAL GEAR COSTS:

Only stating the cost of my initial gear, and not the gear I bought as options/ extras subsequently.

Jacket (Richa Phantom II - GetGeared.com) = £164.99,
Gloves (Oxford Brisbane - GetGeared.com) = £29.99,
Helmet (Scorpion EX 490 - GetGeared.com) = £109.99,
Boots (Frank Thomas Viper Short - J & S Accessories) = £49.99.

SUB-TOTAL FOR INITIAL GEAR COSTS = £354.96.


GRAND TOTAL COST TO BIKING = £1,451.96.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 08 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
Not going to include the bike that I bought because it was entirely optional, and in retrospect, the guys here that said not to buy a 125 and just do the DAS were absolutely correct.

TRAINING AND TEST COSTS:

Compulsory Basic Training = £150.00,
Direct Access Scheme Training = £799.00,
Re-Test and Bike Hire for MOD 1 = £125.00,
Motorcycle Theory Test = £23.00.

SUB-TOTAL FOR TRAINING AND TEST COSTS = £1,097.00.


INITIAL GEAR COSTS:

Only stating the cost of my initial gear, and not the gear I bought as options/ extras subsequently.

Jacket (Richa Phantom II - GetGeared.com) = £164.99,
Gloves (Oxford Brisbane - GetGeared.com) = £29.99,
Helmet (Scorpion EX 490 - GetGeared.com) = £109.99,
Boots (Frank Thomas Viper Short - J & S Accessories) = £49.99.

SUB-TOTAL FOR INITIAL GEAR COSTS = £354.96.


GRAND TOTAL COST TO BIKING = £1,451.96.


So if you added the cost of my bike to your total it's very similar cost.
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