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PostPosted: 11:58 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you believe, the point that is being missed is that we now have a vaccine the majority trust to keep them safe from severe effects of the virus, which they have easy access to, and those who don't want it are generally outside of the "at risk" categories, and if not, well that's their choice. So let's get back to normal living please. And meanwhile, let's find a practical way to run the NHS, which gets overwhelmed every winter, Covid or no Covid, which is a separate issue.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cable Tie wrote:


Depends who controls the media outlet pouring out the propaganda.

Even the BBC have been caught out fabricating a story to push their large pharma funded agenda in Ivermectin.

Either way, I’m much happier to be entering winter with a freshly instructed and fully functioning immune system which has just fought the Delta variant and won on its terms, than relying on a “just 2 shots will be enough”.. “oh no, hang on, maybe 3, maybe 4, every 3 months for the rest of your life, but you will be more likely to catch it than unvaccinated, even ones without natural immunity.”

The vaccinated appear bitter and are trying to justify their decision now as doubts grow over the effectiveness and even motive behind the quarterly forced or coerced tax for vax grab.


Why would the vaccinated be bitter? It's not like we paid for something we don't need.

Even the manufacturer of ivermectin says that it's not proven to be effective against Covid. There are effective covid treatments, it's just not ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. The main most effective treatment is to get vaccinated.

As a slight aside, I give it two weeks before people cotton on that this is yet another sock account for whatever you really would like to call yourself, and that you'll be banned once again.

You REALLY want to believe you have information and knowledge that others don't have. I get it, it's a powerful idea, but sadly it usually manifests itself amongst those who find the world in general a puzzlement, and that the knowledge that there is nothing behind the curtain, no secret conspiracy, that our leaders are too incompetent to cover up a genius master plan... The world is what it is, and you're just being swept along with it, rather than trying to wake up the sheeple. It must be hard to hear eh?
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Barrington Declaration
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:
The Great Barrington Declaration


I seem to recall most of the signatories of that are practitioners of 'alternative' medicine, discredited doctors and non heath professionals.

I mean, we can all go onto forums and write nonsense can't we?

"The Nobby Declaration"

"The Ste Certification"

"The Sockpuppet bannification"

See what I mean? It's nonsense, and it's been shown to be nonsense.

This is pre development of the vaccine, but it seems to imply that the development of a vaccine would render the "Great Barrington Declaration" moot, so maybe get with the programme a bit?

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-barrington-declaration-an-open-letter-arguing-against-lockdown-policies-and-for-focused-protection/
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

lying CNN caught lying about ivermectin-

CNN’s chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta acknowledged that the network shouldn’t have called ivermectin “horse dewormer”.

“Not just could be used for humans, is often used for humans along with all the other drugs that I took. All human drugs,” Joe Rogan said. “They know it’s a human drug and they lied. It’s defamatory.”

“Yeah, they shouldn’t have done that,” Gupta replied.

https://nypost.com/2021/10/14/joe-rogan-takes-on-sanjay-gupta-over-cnn-lying-about-covid-treatment/

this is the quality of news sources we have to rely on these days.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It issued as a horse dewormer so it's hardly what is normally considered a lie.

It's more of a disparaging description.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
GettinBetter wrote:
The Great Barrington Declaration


I seem to recall most of the signatories of that are practitioners of 'alternative' medicine, discredited doctors and non heath professionals.....


I believe you are misinformed....

The instigators


Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.


Furthermore, This is more believable than most of the crap spouted by big pharma and the MSM

Page eleven.. for the results

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/f/flu/3750flu.0016.573
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took no. 1 for his jab. Now sat in the pub having a pint and waiting for him to turn.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 16 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, 4 hours later no.1 son is still hale and hearty, no sign of turning.

Somewhat annoyed because I was planning on turning his bedroom into an office.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

So these studies / experts you reference.

No account taken of the fact that vaccinated have been out more / seen more people / probably stopped taking care because 'vaccinated'? That's not a vaccination fault, that's a people fault and it was / is inevitable.

And yet those of us who are vaccinated who haven't dropped the hygiene thing and are still taking care where it's prudent are O K.

So much #conspiracy - it's a good job breathing is automatic.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cable Tie wrote:


We’re vaccinating kids who stand more chance of dying from the cure than the virus.


FACTS? Where's the figures. Evidence. Actual case numbers that show this.

And do try and not include references that link to the bloke in the shiny blue tracksuit.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Mr. Green

Or it's just that the vast majority of us couldn't give a flying fig about it. Didn't put any more thought into it than taking the Flu jab ( which i've also done this year) and took as much time to decide about that.

Meanwhile back in the Church of the Paranoid AntiVaxx Conspiracy Theorists, their world is in freefall at the sheer stupidity of the sheeple they seek to protect.

Back in reality we're all looking at you like you should be put naked in a padded cell Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:
UncleBFester wrote:
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FACTS? Where's the figures. Evidence. Actual case numbers that show this.

And do try and not include references that link to the bloke in the shiny blue tracksuit.


You bigoted morons DON'T want FACTS, you can't handle them, the LIES pedaled by BIG PHARMA, MSM and the Government are enough for you JABBIES.

You can't/won't learn. Everything you JABBIES have done goes against all logic.

Brainwashed by 'on the hour every hour' MSM broadcasts. Just as they did in the buildup to the last two world wars. The Yids have you by the short and curlies.


Like I said previously conspiracy theories seem to go hand in hand with racism.


You remember what rebel was banned for?
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:

Like I said previously conspiracy theories seem to go hand in hand with racism.


Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


Like I said previously conspiracy theories seem to go hand in hand with racism.....


... As he desparately plays the race card.... says it all.

Your bigotry makes you incapable and unable to investigate the truth.

Typo:Fixed


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PostPosted: 12:15 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:


You're bigotry makes you incapable and unable to investigate the truth.


How is he bigotry?
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:
GettinBetter wrote:


You're bigotry makes you incapable and unable to investigate the truth.


How is he bigotry?


Typo, my bad, fixed it.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 17 Oct 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Cable Tie, I shall endeavour to be as kind as possible...

Might I be so bold as to suggest dialogue is about raising a point, discussing it and hopefully coming to a mutually beneficial conclusion?

What is there to be gained from raving? Whether your points are valid or not is irrelevant as the manner of delivery is akin to an industrial muck spreader, ppl either get pissed off or just avoid the spray.
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